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AI Auto Play - Deity - Pick the Winning Leader!

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Kjotleik, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. Kjotleik

    Kjotleik Kjotleik

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    Hello, Civfanatics and lurkers alike!

    Time for some fun? :D

    I think so...

    This is just a little friendly competition...

    PICK THE WINNING LEADER!

    [the game itself has been played - so I know how it went. You won't know until next weekend]

    The winner(s) will get absolutely NO PRIZE ( :cry: :mad: ) here (but I will edit this post to include the usernames of those who get it right).

    The winners will be revealed next weekend!


    Spoiler THE COMPETITION :
    A
    Name the winning leader!
    (and if you like to really impress: The winning date and victory condition)

    PS!
    All leaders founded their first city at 4000 BC, except Cyrus - who waited one turn

    B
    Name the useless!
    (those who gets eliminated - if any (I won't tell just yet!))

    C
    Date the World Wonders!
    (and who builds what for additional CivIV-expert credits)

    This post: August 22nd 2014.
    Winners revealed: August 29th, 30th or 31st 2014 (next weekend, basically).


    Spoiler How It Was Set Up :


    Spoiler Settings :

    13 AI's (Ragnar + 12)
    Ragnar was given the Deity starting technologies, and the Deity starting units before I turned control over to the AI for the duration of the game...

    Mod: Better BUG AI

    Difficulty level: DEITY

    MAP = Fractal
    SIZE = Large
    CLIMATE = Temperate
    SEALEVEL = Medium
    ERA = Ancient
    SPEED = Epic
    WORLD WRAP = Cylindrical
    RESOURCES = Standard

    Victory Conditions set = ALL of them!
    Options set:
    -City Flipping after Conquest
    -Require Complete Kills
    -No Vassal States
    -No Tribal Villages
    -No Random Events




    Spoiler Start Overview :

    Spoiler Starting Positions :
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    Spoiler Starting Position (NoNames) :
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    Spoiler Starting Positions - Detailed :

    Spoiler Zara Yaqob :
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    Spoiler Ragnar :
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    Spoiler Suryavarman II :
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    Spoiler Washington :
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    Spoiler Qin Shi Huang :
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    Spoiler Montezuma :
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    Spoiler Mehmed II :
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    Spoiler Lincoln :
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    Spoiler Mao Zedong :
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    Spoiler Louis XIV :
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    Spoiler Hannibal :
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    Spoiler Joao II :
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    Spoiler Cyrus :
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    THE WINNER: Gwynnja :trophy: :king: :clap: :bowdown: :hatsoff:

    The only one to get the winning leader correct!

    Spoiler Game Results :

    Winning Leader: Joao II of Portugal
    Victory Condition: Domination
    Date of Victory: AD 1867

    Eliminated: Mehmed II, Ragnar, Qin Shi Huang & Washington


    Spoiler Honourable Mentions :

    Right Victory-Condition (but wrong leader): dutchfire & jackelgull
    Most correct eliminated leaders: 2 (of 4)- Zholef (2 of 5) & Quip (2 of 2)

    No one guessed on the Wonders, so I'll forget about those (removing them from next competition, I guess).



    Some interesting insights from the game played!


    Spoiler Final Map :

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    Spoiler Fun Fact :

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    Spoiler Some Details :

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    Spoiler The Cities :

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    Spoiler War and Peace :

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    Spoiler Demographics :

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    ...and that's the 30 picture limit reached... see you next time...



    Yours Sincerely
    Kjoteik of Norway :)
     
  2. Zholef

    Zholef Warlord

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    Hannibal wins space in 1821.

    Qin, Lincoln, Washington, Louis and Sury get eliminated.
     
  3. dutchfire

    dutchfire Deity

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    Ragnar wins domination
     
  4. fyermind

    fyermind Chieftain

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    Lincoln vassals to hannibal by 500 AD.
     
  5. sinimusta

    sinimusta el capitano

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    It seems that a lot of civs are quite cramped here. Hannibal seems to be getting enough land, has a corner position and peaceful neighbours, namely Lincoln so I suspect him to be the winner here. Let's say space around T300.

    Who will be eliminated? I think Monty will win the duel against Qin, maybe Lincoln will be elimanted too. But this game has vassals so I expect not too many eliminations and more capitulations.
     
  6. Strickl3r

    Strickl3r Prince

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    I'd like to throw in my dice for a more unlikely, but possible outcome.

    Monty goes for Qin, but Qin gets the upper hand and vassals Monty. Protected by his choke point Qin then wins space in the end, because no one really gets ahead of him.

    I would also expect a slow tech pace in this game, so maybe 1900ish space
     
  7. Kjotleik

    Kjotleik Kjotleik

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    Please read the spoiler for "How It Was Set Up."

    I clearly state "No Vassal States" as one of the options!

    Sooo.... no vassaling (or capitulation) in this game!


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     
  8. Gwynnja

    Gwynnja Deity

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    Joao wins
     
  9. MegaLurker

    MegaLurker King

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    First choice: Hannibal. Second choice: Joao. Third choice: Cyrus. Fourth choice: Ragnar.

    I'm guessing that even if one of the AIs on the continent takes it over it will still be too little land to compete with a runaway on the bigger continent. Land distribution is pretty even though Hannibal may have a slight edge depending on how Lincoln settles.

    We have one guaranteed progress-crippling war (the small continent), and likely declarations by Mehmed and Ragnar. Ragnar has no metal but could declare with HAs, which he could get to quickly with those gems. This has a small potential to devastate Sury, giving him Iron and leading to a snowball.

    Hannibal has gold, iron, possible horses but terrible food. If he gets enough land he could victimize a soft AI like.

    Joao can often out-settle other AIs, and his land is decent.

    Cyrus will be blocked but his land is good and he tends to tech really well in the AIs hands with a small empire.
     
  10. jackelgull

    jackelgull An aberration of nature

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    The most obvious choice would be Hannibal, but I'll put my bet in for Cyrus. He's got horses, and he's got peaceful neighbors who would be likely to get curb stomped by immortals for a domination win.
     
  11. Kjotleik

    Kjotleik Kjotleik

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    Hello, again.

    Tomorrow at 18:00 (Norwegian time) I will close the competition. That is about 24 hours and 50 minutes from now...

    During Sunday the winner will be made public.


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     
  12. Quip

    Quip Chieftain

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    Winner: Sury (Space) in 1922

    Eliminated: Washington and Ragnar

    Not expert enough to guess wonders.
     
  13. Kjotleik

    Kjotleik Kjotleik

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    As title says: The first post is updated with game results!


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     
  14. pepoluan

    pepoluan Chieftain

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    @Kjotleik interesting experiment!

    How do you set it up so it auto plays? And how to observe?
     
  15. Kjotleik

    Kjotleik Kjotleik

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    Hello, Pepoluan!

    Well, I use the Better BUG AI mod, which includes the AI Auto Play function.

    Enable cheats in the CivilizationIV.ini-file (CheatCode = chipotle).
    Start a game like usual, one human player on Deity level - the rest AI's. Remember to set the autosave for each and every turn!

    Worldbuilder in Deity starting units and technologies to the human player.
    Press CTRL+Z to reveal the map. Press CTRL+SHIFT+X and choose number of turns (here that means 750).

    Sit back and relax for an hour.

    Once an AI reaches a victory condition, you are either taken to the end-of-game-screens or prompted to choose a civilization (if the "human" one has been eliminated). Just choose "None" (or was it "No?") to be taken to the end-of-game-screens.

    When going through the autosaves, remember to press CTRL+SHIFT+X to chose a new civilization if you open at a date later than the "human" player's elimination. There is still the one-turn of RNG that will differ from the "real" game when you do it like this (don't know how to avoid that, I'm afraid).

    Pros: Don't need to sit and click end-of-turn all the time (can in fact be away from computer to do other stuff, if you like)

    Cons: Apart from the small one-turn RNG-change upon re-loading an autosave after the elimination-date of the "human" AI, I don't know of any (yet).


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     

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