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AI AutoPlay 7 - Deity - Pick the Winning Leader!

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Kjotleik, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. Kjotleik

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    AI AutoPlay 7 - Deity - Pick the Winning Leader!




    Welcome back to the seventh game of the AI AutoPlay Deity - Pick the Winning Leader! competition.​



    The map turned out to be interesting this time.

    Main Continent:
    Bismarck, Boudica, Justinian I, Louis XIV, Mansa Musa, Mehmed II and Suleiman (7)

    NE Continent:
    Catherine, Churchill and Darius I (3)

    West Island:
    Charlemagne and Washington (2)

    SE Island:
    Hannibal (1)



    And if that was not enough to get the heart pumping in excitement, we have two winners of their previous games; Charlemagne and Justinian I. Will one of these make it a perfect two-for-two? Will one of the eleven other leaders have anything to say in this game? You will just have to tell me what will happen here...



    Will there be songs for the mighty men of lore?
    Will the victor have a silver tongue, or hands of gore?
    Will we reach for the stars, unopposed, undenied?
    Will our enemies run through catacombs to hide?
    Will we dominate, eliminate?
    Will we stay true, thinking straight?
    Will time end before we're done?
    Will no one be left after we've won?




    The Winner, and the only one to get the Leader/Victory condition correct...


    :trophy: Mec AntiKythera :trophy:


    Spoiler Honourable Mentions :

    The best to predict the Eliminated Leaders - Top Three:
    1) Ironlungs76 - 70.00
    2) elohssa - 60.00
    3) Major Tom & Zhary - 55.00

    C1 - 1st Great Person - Louis XIV, Great Prophet, 1575BC
    Ironlungs76 was spot on, only missed by 425 years.
    elohssa also had Louis XIV correct, but didn't give type or date.

    C2 - 1st World Wonder - Louis XIV, Stonehenge, 2775BC
    Ironlungs76 again were hitting the 10.9'er here, missing by 25 years (!)
    elohssa had Louis XIV correct, but didn't give wonder or date.

    C3 - 1st Declaration of War - Mehmed II, Bismarck & Hannibal (same turn)
    Ironlungs76 is correct again, missing by 1030 years with Mehmed DoW'ing Mansa.
    elohssa had Mehmed II as well. No victim or date, though.

    C4 - B-Boudica, H-Charlemagne and J-Mansa Musa
    Ironlungs76 had both Charlemagne and Mansa Musa, but both with wrong religions.
    Zhary & elohssa both had Charlemagne, but with the wrong religion.

    C5 - World is round - Justinian I, AD 505
    No one had Justinian I. But Ironlungs76 did think it would happen at AD 500...

    C6 - 1st to Liberalism: Louis XIV, AD 505
    Ironlungs76 had Louis XIV at AD 800.

    C7 - 1st Golden Age: Mansa Musa, Taj Mahal, AD 190
    No one were close to correct here...

    *One tip Ironlungs76 - Buy a lottery-ticket immediately! :goodjob:


    Spoiler Game Results :

    Winner: Louis XIV
    Condition: Culture
    Date: AD 1847

    Eliminated:
    [5] Bismarck, Darius I, Mansa Musa, Mehmed II and Washington

    C1 - First Great Person: Louis XIV, Great Prophet, 1575BC
    C2 - First World Wonder: Louis XIV, Stonehenge, 2775 BC
    C3 - First DoW... 470 BC...
    Mehmed II on Mansa Musa...and...
    Bismarck on Mehmed II...and...
    Hannibal on Darius I
    [all declared on the same turn]
    C4 - Early religions:
    Buddhism - Boudica 3650BC
    Hinduism - Charlemagne 3625BC
    Judaism - Mansa Musa 2575BC
    C5 - The world is round: Justinian I, AD 505
    C6 - First to Liberalism: Louis XIV, AD 505
    C7 - First Golden Age: Mansa Musa, Taj Mahal, AD 190


    How did these leaders do in Round One?

    Spoiler Round One Results :

    (leader (game#) place)

    Pot Ac
    Mansa Musa (3) 3rd
    Justinian I (3) WINNER
    Catherine (3) 5th
    Suleiman (3) Eliminated
    Churchill (3) 6th

    Pot Ba
    Mehmed II (1) Eliminated
    Washington (1) Eliminated
    Louis XIV (1) 9th
    Hannibal (1) 8th

    Pot Cb
    Boudica (2) Eliminated
    Darius I (2) 7th
    Charlemagne (2) WINNER
    Bismarck (2) 3rd




    Spoiler THE COMPETITION :

    A - Used to determine competition winner(s)!
    Name the winning leader! [A1]
    (the victory condition [A2] and winning date [A3] optional, but highly recommended!)

    Competition winner(s) will be declared after considering A1, A2 and A3, respectively.

    # if two participants have the correct leader, but only the second one has chosen condition and/or date, the latter will be declared competition winner (with the former 2nd placed).

    *Winning date can be a period. But of course; the narrower the period, the better the reputation of the ones to get it right!

    PS!
    You are NOT allowed to chose more than ONE leader. But you can of course comment on your own choice by mentioning other possible scenarios and winning leaders, as long as you make it clear whom your final choice IS! Posters choosing more than one leader, will be disqualified!


    B - Civ IV Expert credits given here...
    Name the useless! [Bn] (date(s) of elimination optional)
    (those leaders who get themselves eliminated - if any (I won't tell just yet!))


    C - Just for fun (you need luck here...)
    Who...
    ...gets the first Great Person [C1] (date and type optional)
    ...builds the first World Wonder [C2] (date and wonder optional)
    ...makes the first Declaration of War [C3] (date and defender optional)
    ...founds the early religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism) [C4a-c] (dates optional)
    ...proves the world is round [C5] (date optional)
    ...wins the race towards Liberalism [C6] (date optional)
    ...enters the first Golden Age [C7] (date and method [Taj or GP] optional)

    *of course, if the game ends before some of these things happen, and you say so, you will be credited under "honourable mentions"! But it is more likely that all of these will happen before a Victory Condition is reached.


    IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND and want to change your choices, you are allowed to do so before the deadline passes. But you MUST edit your first post. After the competition deadline has arrived, the posts will be examined in chronological order. If multiple posts exists, by the same user, only the FIRST post containing A1 (optionally A2 and A3) will be allowed to enter the competition.
    Posts NOT containing A1, will be disqualified from the competition.

    This post: Sunday, December 7th 2014.
    Deadline: Saturday, December 13th 2014, 18:00 (Norwegian Time).
    Winners revealed: Saturday/Sunday December 13th/14th 2014.



    Spoiler Settings :

    13 AI's (Mehmed II + 12)
    Mehmed II was given the Deity starting technologies, and the Deity starting units before I turned control over to the AI for the duration of the game...

    Mod: Better BUG AI

    Difficulty level: DEITY

    MAP = Fractal
    SIZE = Large
    CLIMATE = Temperate
    SEALEVEL = Medium
    ERA = Ancient
    SPEED = Epic
    WORLD WRAP = Cylindrical
    RESOURCES = Standard

    Victory Conditions set = ALL of them!
    Options set:
    -City Flipping after Conquest
    -Require Complete Kills
    -No Vassal States
    -No Tribal Villages
    -No Random Events


    Spoiler Starting Positions :

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    Spoiler Catherine :

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    Spoiler Churchill :

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    Spoiler Darius I :

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    Spoiler Hannibal :

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    Spoiler Justinian I :

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    Spoiler Louis XIV :

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    Spoiler Mansa Musa :

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    Spoiler Mehmed II :

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    Spoiler Suleiman :

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    Spoiler Washington :

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    PS!
    Since I recently re-installed my Civ IV game due to me installing the BUFFY mod (to enable participation in the HOF), I must have forgotten to set my AutoSaves for every turn. After having finished the game once, I discovered the only savegame in existence was the initial 4000BC save :cry:

    Naturally, I had to set it straight, and play the map a second time (unfortunately). However, this will not affect the competition in any way, since you don't know what happened the first time I played it. So there is no way for you to tell if the second time was a more "normal" result, or a more "freaky" one. I won't tell either way until the game report comes up next week.

    Good Luck!


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :D
     
  2. Kjotleik

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    AI AutoPlay League of Leaders 7

    A World's History
    - the brief version -
    (World #7)


    Part One - Peace and Quiet (4000 BC to 470 BC)

    Spoiler Part One :

    Sorry for the somewhat limited game report. It's close to christmas, so I won't get time to write a full report for this game now. But here are the most important things:

    3650 BC - Buddhism founded in Vienne/Boudica
    3625 BC - Hinduism foundedn in Prague/Charlemagne
    3550 BC - Churchill becomes the first to adopts Slavery
    3375 BC - Charlemagne is the first to found a third city (Vienna)
    2775 BC - Louis XIV - Stonehenge in Orleans (1st World Wonder)
    2575 BC - Judaism founded in Djenne/Mansa Musa
    2550 BC - Mansa Musa is first to adopt Organized Religion
    2200 BC - Louis XIV is first to adopt Hereditary Rule
    1825 BC - Mansa Musa first to capture a barbarian city (Nubian)
    1750 BC - Bismarck is first to adopt Representation
    1575 BC - Ramakrishna (Great Prophet) is the first GP born in Orleans/Louis XIV
    525 BC - Churchill is the first to adopt Vassalage
    485 BC - Mansa Musa 6-pop whips The Parthenon in Kumbi Saleh (!)
    470 BC - Mehmed II declares war on Mansa Musa
    470 BC - Mansa Musa is the first to adopt Theocracy
    470 BC - Mansa Musa completes the Apostolic Palace (Judaism) in Timbuktu
    470 BC - Bismarck declares war on Mehmed II
    470 BC - Hannibal declares war on Darius I

    Spoiler World Map at 500BC :


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    Part Two - Fast Forward (470 BC to AD 1847)

    Spoiler Part Two :

    AD 190 - Mansa Musa gets the first Golden Age (Taj Mahal)
    AD 505 - Louis XIV is the first to discover Liberalism
    AD 505 - Justinian I proves the world to be round (same year as the french liberalism, no less)
    AD 1270 - Mininc Inc incorporated by Suleiman in Edirne
    AD 1350 - Catherine signs defensive pact with Boudica
    AD 1380 - Boudica declares war on Bismarck, effectively cancelling her def pact with Cathy
    AD 1460 - Creative Constructions by Charlemagne in Aachen
    AD 1510 - Aluminum Co by Hannibal in Utica
    AD 1520 - Louis XIV is first to Apollo Program
    AD 1530 - Hannibal is second to Apollo Program
    AD 1575 - Suleiman is third to Apollo Program
    AD 1832 - Louis XIV completes first SS Engine in Paris, and launches the SpaceShip
    AD 1847 - Louis XIV has won a Cultural Victory

    Hannibal didn't get the SS Engine, so he hasn't launched.
    Louis XIV would've won Space, if he didn't get Culture, in seven turns
    Justinian I could've competed for Culture, but was knocked down to one city by the end...
    Every time Justinian I tried to attack Louis XIV, it was the French that captured enemy cities!

    Spoiler Victory Conditions AD 1846 :

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    Spoiler Civics AD 1847 :

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    Updated WB StartingSave file with Game Seven!
     
  3. dutchfire

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    Justinian, space, 1850 AD. I think the main continent stands the best chance.
     
  4. Mec AntiKythera

    Mec AntiKythera King

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    Lets say Louis wins a Culture victory in 1840. He has a nice corner of the map and builds enough units that he may survive Justinian, Mehmed and the other nasties.

    Looking forward to shadowing this one.
     
  5. Ironlungs76

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    Name the winning leader!

    Charlemagne Domination 1850.

    B - Name the useless!
    Washington eliminated 1AD
    Mansa Musa eliminated 500AD

    C - Just for fun (you need luck here...)
    Who...
    ...gets the first Great Person [C1] (date and type optional)
    Louis Priest, 2000BC

    ...builds the first World Wonder [C2] (date and wonder optional)
    Louis Stonehenge, 2750BC

    ...makes the first Declaration of War [C3] (date and defender optional)
    Mehmed DoWs Mansa 1500BC

    ...founds the early religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism) [C4a-c] (dates optional)
    Charly Buddhism
    Mansa Hinduism
    Justinian Judiasm
    Darius Confucianism

    ...proves the world is round [C5] (date optional)
    Hannibal 500AD

    ...wins the race towards Liberalism [C6] (date optional)
    Louis 800AD

    ...enters the first Golden Age [C7] (date and method [Taj or GP] optional)
    Louis

    Initially I fancied Louis to fare quite well here but Charly's going to be unstoppable with the amount of land he will have once he inevitably wipes Washington off his continent. Louis will be too busy building wonders and teching away to withstand a large attack from Boudica/Justinian.

    Mansa will hold on relatively well despite multiple DoWs but I'm sure he will be hated by pretty much everyone on that continent and suffer an earlyish KO despite his lovely looking land. I tip Boudica to take control of large parts of the larger Continent.

    I fancy Catherine to perform quite well also but Churchill will be too stubborn for her to roll over once she tires of beating on Darius.

    Hannibal could be a bit of a dark horse for a backdoor Space/Culture victory, but I expect Charly to have conquered pretty much most of the map before that becomes an issue.
     
  6. The Diocletian

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    Justinian wins a Space Race in 1880 is my bet. The people not on the main continent are more or less out of the running IMO. Justin is a solid AI, one of the best IMO.
     
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    Justinian, Space, 1890 AD.

    IMP-AIs are just over the top, and he seems to have reasonably good land.
     
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    mahmed
     
  9. Zhary

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    A:
    Bismarck domination 1870

    B:
    Boudica 200 AD
    Darius 300 AD
    Mehmed 800 AD
    Louis 1000 AD
    Justinian 1600 AD
    Mansa 1650 AD

    C:
    1: Great Scien Mansa
    2:GWall Washington
    3:Boudica on Mehmed 1200 BC
    4:
    a:Budd Mehmed
    b:Hindu Louis
    c:Judaism Charlie
    5:Catty
    6:Mansa
    7:Boudica Gpriest
     
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    a: Mehmed - Space - 1900
    b: Washington
    c: Louis, Louis, Mehmed, Charlemagne+Justinian+Darius, Catherine, Mansa Wusa, Louis (GP)
     
  11. Major Tom

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    With Mansa Musa on the main continent that continent will be far ahead the others. Unlucky for the bunch outside the action. How long will Louis let MM be alive?

    Winner: Bismarck, Space 1888. Justinian not far behind but Bismarck has better production facilities and the Panzer to fend off neighbours.

    The useless:
    Washington (Charley is too though)
    Mansa (Louis gets annoyed)
    Mehmed (Louis gets bloodthirsty)
    Sully (Louis gets an idea of domination)
    Boudica (Bismarck needs her land)
    Cathy (She needs land but will lose)

    Lib-race: Justinian
    1st DoW: Louis on MM
     
  12. drewisfat

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    I'm throwing my money behind Darius, 1890 space.
    Yeah yeah he's on the wrong continent, but look at his continent. Cathy has no land and is blocked by a mountain against churchill, so she'll crawl down her small peninsula, run into the desert and lose to Darius. Churchill doesn't know how to do things, so Darius will dominate that continent.
    Mansa + main continent screams tech dominance there, but he is sandwiched between Mehmed, Justinian and Louis. If he picks the wrong religion he might even get eliminated.

    Wton and cathy get eliminated.
     
  13. Kjotleik

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    Deadline passes in one hour and five minutes!

    ...

    EDIT: Deadline has now passed
    Game report and winners revealed tomorrow, Sunday 14th!

    ...


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     
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    Hello.

    First and Second posts updated with Winner, Honourable Mentions and Game Report!


    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     
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    Ooh, Louis, I did not see that coming.
     
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    Seems that Louis is a versatile AI. Thought he was a big time warmonger. Perhaps H-rule saved Mansa (AD). Look forward to see Mec AntiKytheras replays.

    By the way, did Hannibal DoW Darius without being able to reach him?
     
  17. Ironlungs76

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    Not much point in that I'd be one number off correct every single time ;)

    Wish I'd gone with my initial gut feeling that Louis would win now.

    I'm curious, was there much variance having to re-run the game from your initial results?

    Anyway, interesting results as always, thanks Kjotleik!
     
  18. Mec AntiKythera

    Mec AntiKythera King

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    Thanks for the report, Kjotleik.

    Louis, Culture and 1840's? You would almost think I played a shadow game before making my guess, until you see the results of my games that is. Two of the three games were won by leaders nobody picked. I will get those posted later today for comparison.
     
  19. Kjotleik

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    No. Between the Hannibal island and the Darius/Churchill/Catherine continent there is a two-wide gap (coast to coast, no ocean between) at the smallest.


    Well, as I don't have any savegames from my "lost" first attempt, I cannot say. But I do remember that Louis XIV won a Space victory, and that Hannibal was the second-in-line as far as SpaceShip construction was concerned.

    Also, Suleiman did worse, and Justinian I better in my "lost" game. Details are harder to come by due to the missing save-games, though.



    Yours Sincerely
    Kjotleik of Norway :)
     
  20. Mec AntiKythera

    Mec AntiKythera King

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    Louis won both of your games? That's funny, he didn't win any of the three I ran which left me convinced that I was crazy for picking him.
     

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