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AI Declaring War On Eliminated Civs

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by ShaqFu, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. ShaqFu

    ShaqFu Requires Nanotechnology

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    In my current game, I noticed some time back that the Ottoman Empire had been fully conquered (I can no longer meet with Suleman for diplomacy). This past turn, the notification came up that Oda had declared war on "!", with the icon indicating that he had just declared war on the Ottomans.

    I have no idea how or why this happened, but it's strange that the AI will declare war on civs that no longer exist.
     
  2. digitCruncher

    digitCruncher Emperor

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    I can confirm. IN my game, America was wiped out. Two turns later (or it could have been just one), Ghandi, Catherine, and a city state declared war on !, and the symbols showed a American sheild.

    The ! is a trivial thing. It tries to find the name of the civ, but fails, so instead of saying "X declared war on America!" it says "X declared war on !". Oddly, it definitely knows it is America >.>
     
  3. They can't afford to take chances with the zombies.:)
     
  4. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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    A save prior to this declaration would be very useful.
     
  5. Demartus

    Demartus Chieftain

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    What's happening is a Civ is asking another to declare war, but they're choosing the "...in 10 turns." option. Then the target gets wiped out before the 10 turns are up.

    Thus, when the 10 turns are up, the Civ tries to declare war, but there's no one left.
     
  6. ShaqFu

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    I wasn't expecting it to happen, and I don't know if it's easily repeatable, so I don't have one. :(
     
  7. Athelstan

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    I had a similar event occur. In my case, the Iroquois conquered the Greeks, eliminating them. I took a former Greek city from the Iroquois and liberated it, re-activating the Greek civilization. Immediately after making peace with the Iroquois, I decided to take the Greek city for myself and make it a puppet, again eliminating the Greeks. When the peace treaty between me and the Iroquois elapsed, The Iroquois declared war on the now-defunct Greeks (according to the icon; the message said "Hiawatha declared war on!").

    Unfortunately I do not have a save before the message came up. I do have one at the time of the message.

    After this occurred, I kept getting the notification that my peace treaty with the Iroquois had expired on every turn. It eventually stopped, but I cannot say why. It MAY have stopped when I annexed the Greek city that I took from the Iroquois, but I wasn't paying that much attention to it.
     
  8. grandad1982

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    So I told Siam that I would wait 10 turns till I DoW on England. I reality I DoW the next turn. Before the 10 turns were up England was gone. On turn 10 a notication comes up saying Siam and their city state allie are DoWing England :confused:

    Also in the same game I wiped out the Songhi [sp?]. Many turns later A city state that that was also at war with Songhi (whilst they existed) put a notification up that they had declared peace with the vanished nation!
     
  9. The_J

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    Probably the same issue.
    Savegame would still be nice.
     
  10. grandad1982

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    Not sure I have the save game! I'll have a look. If it happens again I'll put the save up!

    I've also hade notifications of peace treatys ending turn after turn (russia in my case). I got it to stop by DoW on Russia and a quick strike on Moscow :lol: That'll learn her.
     
  11. grandad1982

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    Just had an idea for the bug hunt. If auto save is set to every turn then there is a gareented save. Sweet. Unless thats bugged to....
     
  12. remko

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    I had the same problem but no safe game ....sorry
     
  13. fmiracle

    fmiracle Warlord

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    Occured recently.
    England propose me to declare war on Persia. Ok, I took 10 turns for prepare.

    But England declare war before it and fully conquered Persia in a couple of turns (they were much-much-much stronger).

    Ok.

    But, after 10 turns passed Elizabet come to me, demanding me to declare war on Persia! :)

    Okay, it was safe (no single persian city in game), I accepted. And recime messages from citystates, that they too declare war on soomebody.

    "Hanoi has delared war on !"
    "Helsinki has delared war on !"
    such messages :)

    But nothing bad did not occured - just clumsy request/messages.

    Sorry, have no save, but only screen of messages.
     

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  14. The_J

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  15. fmiracle

    fmiracle Warlord

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    Same issue with messages I had found when liberated Chinese city and resurrected China civ:

    " has made peace with Elizabeth!"
    " has made peace with !"
    (last message is about "peace" with Catherine, who also is already conquered)
     

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