Morgawr
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when the AI is deciding whether to trade with you or not, they're evaluating their attitude towards your "team". usually a team is a PA, and/or a team you set up in the custom game screen. but for tech trades, it gets weird, because your team there is defined to also include any vassals you have.
Is that true only for trading or war declarations as well? Because that would explain why there are so many threads out there about AI declaring war on people although they claim they have been friendly for centuries. I researched this a bit and this one says that for war declarations, team attitude is used. It classifies which instances use the player attitude vs team attitude. (e.g. civic change is player attitude but declare war is team attitude) I assume you're familiar with all this since there's a lot of posts of yours in there too.

My other question is that you seemed to imply there might be different versions of team attitude. One that takes only PA into account and one that takes vassals also. How does that work?
(A more practical example: In my current game Isabella is friendly with me although our borders are super close. I just got a vassal and now she gives me WFYABTA because I checked and she's pleased towards my new vassal, which averages to pleased because of the rounding down. Now, could she declare war on me now if she wanted to, or is the war declaration based on player attitude only and I have nothing to fear?)
EDIT: Reading about all this stuff has been quite eye opening for me btw. I put a lot of energy into diplomacy too and it seems like making a colony has a pretty big penalty on your diplomatic relations, when you are sure to lose friendly status with ALL the AIs. (since no vassal is going to start friendly with them)