AI Settlers. buggged, or just buggers?

[Lab Monkey]

Here's a little story.

The fledgling egyptians found themselves in a medium sized island, connected to the main continent by a bottleneck of land. They struggled against the oppressive jungle and managed to produce enough settlers to build two other cities, one partly blocking the bottleneck, and forming a border with the neighbouring Americans and Germans. The rest of Egypt was clogged by dense jungle which stiffled population growth.

Then without warning, the Egyptians were besieged by settlers and spearmen from America and Germany, against whom Egypt was no match militarilly. You see these two greedy races had gobbled up all their land and were now marching through Egyptian territory towards as yet unclaimed deposits of iron and dyes.

The Egyptians were right propper p***ed off.

1. They had allowed no enemy units into their land. Ever.
2. No maps had ever been traded.
3. No ships had ever sailed around the coast.

There was absolutely no way that the other civs could have known about the unsettled land. Yet here the little scummy foreigners came.

And so the Egyptians cried out to the great god Firaxis and asked...

"What the b***dy hell is going on here?"

 

[Grey Knight]

The part of the AI which deals with settlers knows the entire map, including all strategic resources.

I'd recommend trying to culture-flip the invading cities.

Cheers,
Shawn

 

[Lab Monkey]

But does anyone know whether this will be corrected?

 

[Zachriel]

Here's a little story.

The Native American civilization was flourishing on the continent of North America. Suddenly, they were beseiged by European settlers. The Europeans brought along musketmen, and bullied their way into the best lands. They seemed to know where all the strategic resources were, but in any case, they settled everywhere.

Some Native American towns flipped to the Europeans, but most were pushed out and migrated west. Occassional wars would break out, peace would be made, but the Europeans would violate the peace agreements. Slowly, but surely the entire continent was settled by the Europeans until there was no room for the Native Americans. The Europeans even built big cities right in between Native American villages, sometimes on sacred hunting grounds.

Firaxis, can't you fix this!

 

[loki]

Use fast units (horsemen) to block the settlers. Demand them to leave.
Secure that bottleneck with workers, fortresses, and defensive troops.
Settle these unclaimed lands asap while you are preventing AI settlers from moving toward them.
Oh and finally, MASS defensive troops on the bottleneck and in the cities around it : The AI WILL attack you.

loki

 

[mark1030]

It helps if you don't give them your maps. Then they first explore with scouts or warriors before they send settlers in.

 

[Hamlet]

Fortifying the bottleneck would seem to be a simple, albeit temporary solution.

 

[kundor]

Originally posted by Zachriel
Here's a little story.

The Native American civilization was flourishing on the continent of North America. Suddenly, they were beseiged by European settlers. The Europeans brought along musketmen, and bullied their way into the best lands. They seemed to know where all the strategic resources were, but in any case, they settled everywhere.

Some Native American towns flipped to the Europeans, but most were pushed out and migrated west. Occassional wars would break out, peace would be made, but the Europeans would violate the peace agreements. Slowly, but surely the entire continent was settled by the Europeans until there was no room for the Native Americans. The Europeans even built big cities right in between Native American villages, sometimes on sacred hunting grounds.

Firaxis, can't you fix this!

Thank you, Zachriel.

 

[Selous]

Originally posted by Zachriel
Here's a little story.

The Native American civilization was flourishing on the continent of North America. Suddenly, they were beseiged by European settlers. The Europeans brought along musketmen, and bullied their way into the best lands. They seemed to know where all the strategic resources were, but in any case, they settled everywhere.

Some Native American towns flipped to the Europeans, but most were pushed out and migrated west. Occassional wars would break out, peace would be made, but the Europeans would violate the peace agreements. Slowly, but surely the entire continent was settled by the Europeans until there was no room for the Native Americans. The Europeans even built big cities right in between Native American villages, sometimes on sacred hunting grounds.

Firaxis, can't you fix this!

didnt this happen some time around 1600 AD?? ... rather than 1000BC as happens in civ3? .... just a small hole in your otherwise great story