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AI's and Privateers

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Echo of Celts, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Echo of Celts

    Echo of Celts Just Plain Crazy

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    In my current game, I am Asoka of India, to my north is Zara of Ethiopia.

    We have had a great relationship and now have a defensive pack with each other and have been Friendly all game.

    However, I had some Privateers attacking my fleet. Finally I hunted them down and sunk them... and it said

    "Your Frigate has sunk an Ethiopian Privateer"...

    Why would my ally, whom I have pledge to defend (I was 3 of 11 in Power, he was 7th or 8th) start attacking my interests with Privateers?
     
  2. iamnleth

    iamnleth Warlord

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    Better yet, why did it say it was Ethiopian when the nationality of the privateer is supposed to be invisible?
     
  3. Incan Emperor

    Incan Emperor Warlord

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    First off, oddly, Ive never seen a single Privateer that didnt belong to me, second, its really screwey that it told you the nationalty after you sunk it, if I where you I would ignore it, since that is information you where not meant to know in the first place.
     
  4. Bhruic

    Bhruic Emperor

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    I just tested sinking an enemy Privateer, and I got:
    "Your Frigate has destroyed a Privateer!"

    Further, the combat log refers to it as a "Barbarian Privateer". So in neither case was the nationality listed. Do you have a screenshot/save of your case?

    Bh
     
  5. Refar

    Refar Deity

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    I did not try it, but perhaps the mess-up comes, when the Privateer belongs to your Vassal (i think that's the described situation...)

    EDIT: Just made the experiment, sinking some of my Vassalas Privateers. The Message did _not_ revealed the nationality...

    The other part however is a bit odd indeed - my Vassals Privareers (Who's on top of it Friendly towards me) happily pillaged my fish, blockaded my capital and (a bit less happily) made a run on a stack of my Destroyers... Funny guys... This is a bit strange, but i think not a bug - those dudes are pirates after all, they take all they can get :D
     
  6. CivCorpse

    CivCorpse Supreme Overlord of All

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    Most likely the cities they were blockading were the most profitable.
     
  7. brianb1974

    brianb1974 Warlord

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    The whole point of privateers is to screw your friends over without reaping negative diplomatic repercussions.

    I'm currently playing an archipelago game as the dutch. I didn't fight a battle all game until privateers and everybody was at least pleased with me. Next I built a privateer fleet to trash my nearest rivals. It's a great deal. Set them back, pillage money. And my favorite thing of all is that it made a market for my excess seafood. Late game on an archipelago map, you can barely give away seafood. But after my privateer fleet did its work, I had a little chat with my friendly rivals. "Oh I'm so sorry about what happened to your fishing nets. I wish there were something I could do to help. I have fish, crab, and clams I'd be happy to let you have in exchange for your excess gold. Woohoo. The only thing I just thought of that I have to check is: do privateer victories give you great general points? If so, that would just rock. A couple GGs while staying at peace. I can settle them to do some research under representation. And eventually my dyke-powered armies will have extra XP. You gotta love privateers.
     
  8. UncleJJ

    UncleJJ Deity

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    brianb1974; privateers definitely do give GG points and that is one of the major reasons to build them :) ... and apart from messing with your friends and enemies seafood and trade routes at a profit, that is probably the best reason to get them early and pump hammers into them.
     
  9. Echo of Celts

    Echo of Celts Just Plain Crazy

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    I know it is not supposed to show the nationality of Privateers and I sunk about 3, but only 1 said it was Ethiopian, the other two just said privateer...

    I know it happened, because it caught me off guard that my ally was attacking my sea interests. I didnt get a screenshot though
     

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