Al Qaeda calls for 'jihad' against Pakistan's Musharraf

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CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- An audio message from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden released Thursday called on Muslims to "carry out jihad" against Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf.

The 23-minute 37-second audio message -- titled "Come to Jihad: A Speech to the People of Pakistan" -- is recorded over a montage of old video, and begins with bin Laden reciting prayers and citations from the Quran in Arabic. The audio fades down, then a narrator translates bin Laden's message into Pashto. The tape is subtitled in English, and an Arabic transcript was released.

Terrorism analyst Laura Mansfield told CNN that while the message is directed at the Pakistani people, "the simultaneous release of transcripts in English, Pashto, and Arabic indicate the terror group is looking at a wider audience, including the English-speaking world."

The only time reference in bin Laden's message is to the July siege of Islamabad's Red Mosque -- a week-long standoff between Pakistani security forces and Islamic extremists who hoped to establish a Taliban-style rule across the capital. More than 100 people, including militant leader Abdul Rashid Ghazi, died when troops stormed the mosque compound.

Mansfield noted that the bulk of bin Laden's message "builds a [legal] case under Islamic sharia [law] justifying why Muslims in Pakistan should take up arms against" Musharraf.

"He cites numerous quotes from the Quran to document Musharraf's alleged violations of Islamic law, culminating with the recent events at the Lal Masjid [Red Mosque], as well as several fatwas from clerics justifying action against Musharraf," she said. A fatwa is a religious legal ruling.

Bin Laden vows that al Qaeda "will retaliate for the blood of Maulana Abd al-Rashid Ghazi and those with him against Musharraf."

The al Qaeda chief also refers to Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, questioning how it has benefited Pakistan as a nation.

Earlier Thursday, al Qaeda released a recording by bin Laden's lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, promoting bin Laden's message, The Associated Press reported.

Zawahiri boasted that the United States was being defeated in Afghanistan, Iraq and other places, according to AP.

While al Qaeda has previously voiced opposition to Musharraf, a key U.S. ally, bin Laden's message comes during a key test of the Pakistani president's grip on power. Musharraf is hoping to secure a third term as Pakistan's president, but has suffered a major loss in popularity after sacking the country's top judge, who was later reinstated.

Opposition leaders, including former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, are calling on Musharraf to step down as the country's military ruler. Musharraf said he will abandon the post if he is re-elected in the October 6 presidential elections.

Bin Laden's threat against Musharraf could serve as a boon to the Pakistani leader if he is re-elected. He could use the al Qaeda threat to declare a state of emergency -- which would widen his powers and most likely postpone any move to step down as military ruler.

Bin Laden's message is the third from al Qaeda this month.

The terrorist group released a 47-minute videotape last week on the sixth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. The video, which featured an introduction by bin Laden in which he praised one of the 9/11 hijackers, was posted on several Islamist Web sites known for carrying statements from al Qaeda and other radical groups,

A few days earlier, bin Laden -- sporting a darker beard -- released another videotape urging Americans to "embrace Islam" as a way to end the war in Iraq.

U.S. officials have said intelligence indicates that bin Laden and other senior al Qaeda leaders are operating freely in Pakistan's tribal region near the border with Afghanistan.


This could get ugly. If a radical Islamic theocracy takes over Pakistan, I'd hate to imagine what kind of consequences that could have. I would have to believe that we'd (US and Allies) have to do something to remove the nuclear weapons from that country and destroy the capability to produce more. Otherwise, I can't see a future where that kind of regime wouldn't hand over nukes to terrorists, use them directly against India in a war, or otherwise.

What do you all think?
 
Just saw this on the news. This would mean BAD news for the West, if they were able to obtain nukes. I think India should intervene. :rolleyes:
 
Meh. Al Qaeda has called for Jihad against three-fourth of the world anyway.

Yes, but if there is one place in the world where they have a real shot at success, it surely must be in Pakistan.
 
Ahahah....

I so expected that would happen what with Mushraff getting cozier with the US, ending his support of radical Islamic groups, storming a mosque, and such things. It was only a matter of time the fundamentalists he had used against India turned against him before long. :lol:

Ah this is most wonderfully ironic and so richly deserved. Maybe Pakistan will now truly get a taste of its own medicine :lol:

I doubt the government will fall. Their just going to suffer more terrorist attacks. The fundamentalists are too weak to to challenge the army and ISI. After all most of the fundamentalist groups in Pakistan were heavily aided by the ISI. If the army and ISI truly set their mind to it they could root out the fundamentalists. And they very well might when their power is threatened.
 
I don't think Al Qaeda is strong enough in Pakistan to seize any nuclear weapons, or overthrow Musharrah's government.* Things will probably get very messy, though.


*If they could overthrow Musharraf and seize control, then....well, see Aneeshm's comment.
 
I think we're screwed. :(
So you are giving up and converting to Islam? :p
Point is, I think we were screwed the minute Mohammed was born in 7th century Arabia, so.......
Oh, no...aneeshm is bashing Islam...again. :lol:

Since when Al Queada has become this global criminal organization like SPECTRE or COBRA that once announces it's "war" against some country should be taken seriously?

All G.I.JOEs and JANEs should of course get ready to do something about it...
 
Since when Al Queada has become this global criminal organization like SPECTRE or COBRA that once announces it's "war" against some country should be taken seriously?

September 11, 2001

Like the assassination of JFK a generation before us, it is a day we all remember - where we were and what we were doing.
 
I don't think a "radical Islamic theocracy" will take over Pakistan. Pakistanis largely view bin Laden and his type the same way Yankees view rednecks in the USA: uneducated fools who are ignorant of the world around them.
 
I don't think a "radical Islamic theocracy" will take over Pakistan. Pakistanis largely view bin Laden and his type the same way Yankees view rednecks in the USA: uneducated fools who are ignorant of the world around them.


You really belive that?

As for the topic... I thought the second time they tried to blow him up they made there feelings clear? :crazyeye:
 
THis is what happens when America destroys the counterweight to "radical Islamic theocracy" in the form of Saddam's regime...
 
You really belive that?

As for the topic... I thought the second time they tried to blow him up they made there feelings clear? :crazyeye:

If someone from Pakistan said that all Americans want to bomb Muslim countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity, wouldn't you think he was off his rocker?

Anyways, here's the experience of one American tourist who traveled to Pakistan:

Well, maybe Osama is in Pakistan and there probably are a few loonies who'd like to chop me to bits, but in two weeks in Pakistan the only negative experience I had, other than a touch of food poisoning in Lahore and a moto-rickshaw accident in Peshawar, was someone yelling out a window of a passing van in Rawalpindi, "go back to your own country!" And seeing as I was flying out the next morning I was already in compliance of his wish so I'm sure we could have later become friends or something.

I got a cab with a real nice driver who spoke excellent English. The first thing on his mind was not whether I was a Muslim, a Jew, a Bush supporter, an Iraq war supporter, an eater of pig, a flogger of camels, the flea of a sewer rat, but whether I might be carrying SARS.

Once it was determined I was probably clear of SARS, it was time for the requisite discussion of my nationality and so forth. My driver, Mehood, said I was the first American he had seen in at least a year. "Glad to have one of you back." I was to hear that comment quite a bit. He then echoed sentiments I would also hear over and over again. That the crazy extremists were to the Pakistanis just as crazy as we westerners perceive them to be. He, and many others I would meet, described them essentially as the Pakistani equivalent of hillbillies. I was often lectured, whether I needed to hear it again or not, that Islam is a peaceful religion and the militancy practiced by a handful of rednecks is not the Islam that 98% of Pakistanis practice. It seems to be more of a poverty issue than an ideological issue. Deep in the hardscrabble northern mountains, mullahs, with hardly any more education than the boys they are instructing, run religious schools (madrassa) that indoctrinate these impressionable young minds with anti-western sentiment. The boys then grow up with few other influences in their lives and the cycle perpetuates.

QED.
 
An intresting experance for this guy for sure. I know a guy named Danny Pearl who would love to talk about his trip... wait thats right, his head was cut off. Any way you slice it ( :lol: sorry just had to get that one in there ) it comes down to a lot of factors. I for one think the Intelligance Service of Pakistan is playing a dangerous game, even if they are just " hillbillies "
 
You do realize that Daniel Pearl was killed by the extremists I'm talking about, the ones that comprise .0006% of Pakistan's population and are reviled by most Pakistanis, right?

I mean for Christ's sake. You're basically saying that because one white person in America committed a hate murder against a black means that all Americans hate black people and want to kill them.
 
More reason why Musharraf has to go and give space to political leaders . If would be better if it is Musharraf vs Bhutto vs Sharrif vs Islamic parties rather than Musharraf vs Islamic parties.
 
You do realize that Daniel Pearl was killed by the extremists I'm talking about, the ones that comprise .0006% of Pakistan's population and are reviled by most Pakistanis, right?

I mean for Christ's sake. You're basically saying that because one white person in America committed a hate murder against a black means that all Americans hate black people and want to kill them.

What you consider .0006% of the population is able to keep a large region of the nation pretty much lawless and under there own control, attempt to kill the head of state in a military dictatorship twice ( that we know of ) and still pretty much does as it pleases?

Reviled? They are still in existance and they government will not move against them for fear of an uprising. .0006%? Hardly. Wishful thinking for sure Pasi, yet definately not realistic.
 
You do realize that Daniel Pearl was killed by the extremists I'm talking about, the ones that comprise .0006% of Pakistan's population and are reviled by most Pakistanis, right?

I mean for Christ's sake. You're basically saying that because one white person in America committed a hate murder against a black means that all Americans hate black people and want to kill them.

So amount of extremists in Pakistan is 0.0006% of 161,284,000 =967 much much more than that I think.
 
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