Well, i didnt participate in that "fight" either. But i'd like to contribute what my considerable warmongering experience dictates: A war immidiently would have plenty of margin to be succesful so long as it remained mostly swords vs archers. It might actually prove to be more efficient than the one vs Charly. On the other hand ofcourse i have to admit it wasnt really necessary, wich why i suggested focusing on economy with expansion as a sidekick. There was (still partly is) land to expand, and unlike higher difficulties ( which may be Scarredroman's basis for comparison ) a financial AI doesnt skyrocket that early or even simply develops land/cities faster than the human. The order you declare for settling looks mostly fine to me, Sis. The only thing i'd add is if you plan to take on Lizzy, you shoul aim max 4 extra cities. Blue, ochre, gold nad green seem fine. Ofcourse while you dont trully need the NW crab village, it would deny Lizzy horses. Not that if you plan to go elephs its a major concern, but... Oh, remember to move the capital too. I dont like the idea of oxford AND wall street in one city. A GP farm specializing on scientists looks better for oxford. Unless ofcourse you plan to keep going for prophet eternally to stay in character... GP farms cities sites are harder to get than production sites, so i'd put HE in the blue city. Hope you haven't gone to far on MS. As for long term goals i stand hesitant to suggest much... What is a " "honorable" AP win " anyhow? Christianity aimed as the most spread religion, as the state religion of everyone, spread in all cities (to make essentially an early UN victory)? I mean the criteria is entirely subjective and arbitrary. Based on my personal experience, religious victories are very easy to achieve even on the top difficulty. The only way i can think of to make things more intresting without a arbitrary criteria is to play with many opponents. Like 15-18, especially on conentrated maps. Ofcource even then, most one has to do is survive a while longer... Nomatter, if the plan includes war we should definitely aim to get whatever use we can out of the UU/UB. Any domination/diplomatic victory while waging "holy wars" feels fine to me. I dont think much of a culture victory though, just cause we pooled many religions. There are better leaders to showcase that, especially in BTS where corporation induced can be quite decisive.