All Things Star Trek

[Buster's Uncle]

Now, as to Decker/Riker, original intent, for sure was same character. And that informed the setup at the beginning of TNG, that RIker was somehow a bit more than just a first officer, notwithstanding that he wasn't a Captain supplanted like Decker. In Encounter at Farpoint, ISTR him saying something about he wouldn't LET Picard go on away teams.

-That latter, betcha, was pure David Gerold, who talked about just that -Kirk's dereliction of duty risking himself on landing parties- in The World of Star Trek many years previous, and was on staff for the creation of TNG... Not mentioned was Kirk's failure to allow junior officers the training experience of leading missions, something Riker proceeded to also do hogging the spot himself...

 

[Ordnael]

Finished Disco's 4th Friday night. Better finale than 3rd season, that's for sure. I highlight Tarka for the much needed conflict he brought for this season...I also like how he kindda redeems himself though he always sticks to his guns.
The seasons does pick up in proper ST content after episode's 4, though they never give up on discussing "muh feelings" too much for my taste. Troi would have a nervous breakdown each episode if she counselling aboard the Discovery.
Tilly was sorely missed, propping up Adira Tal for Tilly is a grave mistake, is it because of forced DEI? I don't know how an overweight nervous over-chatty ginger with crazy hair and allergies and snoring is less diverse than a bisexual tween...but that's besides the point...and the point is that Adira is just boring and uninteresting while Tilly represents all of us misfits with social anxieties.

Now I am already 4 episodes in of Season 5 and it's looking good. Tilly is back...yay, Saru is not on USS Discovery but he's still on screen from time to time so I guess his story will eventually coalesce with the main arc. Rayner is a bad choice for first officer, we would be a good chief of security, episode 4 makes him better but I am not totally sold on him. Reno is not on my blacklist anymore...since season 4, her backstory and her character is better fleshed out and although I role my eyes at her humour(can't facepalm because of glasses) she's alright!

 

[Arakhor]

Tilly was sorely missed, propping up Adira Tal for Tilly is a grave mistake, is it because of forced DEI? I don't know how an overweight nervous over-chatty ginger with crazy hair and allergies and snoring is less diverse than a bisexual tween...but that's besides the point...and the point is that Adira is just boring and uninteresting while Tilly represents all of us misfits with social anxieties.

If  you can't even explain why someone is "less diverse", why even suggest it? Why spend your time trying to make yourself angry?

 

[Buster's Uncle]

He never did a mutiny with zero consequences

No, that one was left to Spock, as I recall.

I'd add that the intent of The Menagerie was clear that Spock fixed a horrible and intolerable situation. -And it's very credible to speculate that the Admiralty felt that to know Chris Pike was to love Chris Pike, a very fine officer, and Spock's super-irregular action was justified by Setting a Bad Thing Right. It just possible that an old boys club might unlimber enough if they'd been internally worried about what happened to Pike.

That sort of thing seems to have saved Kirk a few times, not least in the movies...

How much of this work has already been done for me by Strange new Worlds, anyway? It seem to have paved my way for Pike as proto-Kirk...

 

[Ordnael]

If  you can't even explain why someone is "less diverse", why even suggest it? Why spend your time trying to make yourself angry?

I don't understand what are you trying to take a jab at?
I don't trigger myself... as I am not of those angry people at Eagle jeans at the moment!

 

[Clubber Lang]

Star Trek: Khan - Official Podcast Audio Trailer​

Star Trek’s most iconic villain Khan is back! The anxiously awaited scripted podcast series, Star Trek: Khan, is set to release its first episode on September 8, 2025, in celebration of Star Trek Day.

Star Trek: Khan explores the untold events on Ceti Alpha V, chronicling Khan’s descent from a superhuman visionary into the vengeful villain seen in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. New episodes will be available weekly on Mondays through November 3, wherever you get your podcasts.

Naveen Andrews (Lost) voices the iconic role of Khan Noonien Singh, and is joined by a stellar cast, including Wrenn Schmidt (For All Mankind) as Lieutenant Marla McGivers, Sonya Cassidy (Reacher) as Dr. Rosalind Lear, with Star Trek veteran Tim Russ (Star Trek: Voyager) reprising his role as Ensign Tuvok and the legendary George Takei (Star Trek) as Captain Sulu.

Supporting voice cast includes Olli Haaskivi (Oppenheimer) as Delmonda, Maury Sterling (Homeland) as Ivan, Mercy Malick (Mr. Mayor) as Ursula, and Zuri Washington (Life with Althaar) as Madot.

Star Trek: Khan is based on a story by “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” writer and director, Nicholas Meyer. Kirsten Beyer and David Mack serve as writers on the podcast. Star Trek: Khan is produced by CBS’ Eye Podcast Productions Inc., Secret Hideout, and Roddenberry Entertainment. Executive producers include, Alex Kurtzman, Aaron Baiers, Kirsten Beyer, Molly Barton, Carly Migliori, Fred Greenhalgh, Trevor Roth and Rod Roddenberry. Robyn Johnson serves as Co-Executive Producer, and the podcast was directed by Fred Greenhalgh. Realm serves as the production studio for the series.

 

[Arakhor]

"Superhuman visionary"?? He was already clearly a villain before he even left Earth!

 

[Ordnael]

Why can't we get a Section 31 like film for this backstory?
Btw I watched section 31...I liked it...not that much worse from current MCU slop...Michelle's terran emperor super witty woman clearly shines through and makes the whole affair palatable enough for a recommendation if you enjoyed the character in Discovery.
Also finished Discovery, last season was good...I think the main arc story got better development then season 3 and 4. Moll and Lak were believable and good drivers for the plot. Adira nonsense got toned down... a little, Booker pieces shined again, specially the holo...the gag reels must have been hilarious, action Suru has a sweetheart and their relationship is beautiful...yeah it's soapy trek but it's not that bad.
...I still don't like the "remember that thing we did somewhere" dialogues between Booker and Burnham...like Hey, What we are about to do is comparable to whatever we are doing now...and it's stupid... it was all off screen!

 

[Arakhor]

I liked the fifth season. It's a shame that they got cancelled after the fact, so couldn't wrap up the remaining plot bunnies, but that's on Paramount's various financial issues at the moment.

 

[Ordnael]

I think it got wrapped nicely to the moment Burnham and Booker ride into the sunset for another mission, from then on it was flashbacks to the long boring way DS9 got wrapped up. TNG, the series, did it better, imho,...one last poker game with the captain.

 

[Columbkille]

Been doing a airdate-order rewatch of TOS-Enterprise (my dvd/blu ray collection) and just Voyager's "State of Flux" episode. Boy, did they do LT. Carey wrong; He was confined to quarters after being blamed for the Seska nonsense and isn't seen again for years.

 

[Ordnael]

I started last night my second run of DS9. And while watching the opening https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Emissary_(episode) I feel a reinvigorating appreciation for this show, DS9 was kindda in the bottom of my personal Star Trek ranking, and it's not lost on me how Avery Brooks overtheatrical flavour of acting really brings what the scene demands of Benjamin specially while being probed by the alien "prophets" as he goes through various ranges of emotions like from an enthusiastic baseball fan to a grieving widow.

Quark makes is mark quickly as a cynical observant of mankind and Starfleet's bendable virtues and it's remarkable how Armin Shimerman leaves such a strong imprint on the character with so little screen time while Nana going through the Major's various motions of that episode cannot. Not that I dislike Nana's acting but I feel Kyra was the weakest character on the show...I am looking forward to feel renewed appreciation for her as well.

Marc Alaimo's Gul Dukat almost steals the show with way he plays with the character and the situations and he really shines opposed to Sisko in the prefect’s office scene.
Colm Meaney kindda starts the show with a O'brien must suffer staple with all the station in disarray and his pissed off attitude at problems he must solve.

The other's are there mostly for decor I guess, Jadzia Dax is just a science officer for most of the show, Bashir is a lovable smartass, Odo does have a presence right out of the bat though.

It's funny watching old tropes and lines being played out from the perspective of a grow man that has already consumed lots of media, so I kinda roll my eyes internally at the "frontier doc dialogue" and Miles's percussive maintenance.

 

[Ordnael]

2nd episode (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Past_Prologue_(episode) might look like a Kyra show and it is but for me it's all about Garak. He's my wife's favourite for a reason and the way we works and makes Dr. Bashir all worked up is just spectacular. Nice to see Sisko putting Kyra in her place with a playful and firm deliver of "Go over my head again, and I'll have yours on a platter." Odo pulling Kyra down to earth was also a nice touch. I like Odo more before the whole Dominion stuff, more of a Walker Texas Ranger and less of a sad estranged orphan alien.

3rd episode (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/A_Man_Alone_(episode) is an Odo show and a good one at that even if all the Space CSI stuff is wonky and the "Killing your own clone is still murder." makes me think the whole clone theme deserved more exploration but I don't remember memorable ST episodes delving in that. Quark shines with his bro love/hate relationship/antagonism with Odo dialogues. We get a bit more of Jadzia but it's nothing too meaningful.

Loving my second run of Deep Space Nine!

 

[Ordnael]

I liked the 4th episode https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Babel_(episode) the first time I saw and I enjoyed it even more the second time around. What starts as a plain "O’Brien must suffer" (he does suffer...a lot) spirals into a quarantined Deep Space Nine whose crew are being lost to the first humorous, then deadly dubbed "aphasia" virus. Quark Odo interplay shines again as we find out the virus was not planted by the usual suspects.

 

[Ordnael]

"I am Tosk" is the prominent quote I take from episode 4 https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Captive_Pursuit_(episode). It's centred on the relationship between O’Brien and the titular alien that arrives on DS9. And it's also an endearing story about camaraderie, the bones of command, the hardships of the Prime Directive. It's a great episode all around proving that Season 1 DS9 is worth an attentive view.

And then we have https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Q-Less_(episode). Yes the 6th episode has Jonh de Lancie stealing the stage with a brilliant Q episode where for, once, he's not at fault. Vash and Quark's interplay and dialogue is very enjoying. After dealing with Picard this Q is more "humane" and although his usual fun shenanigans are still on display the episode wraps up in an anticlimactic way as no serious explanation is given or consequence is taken from the whole experience. I don't know if I should commend Sisko for the way he handled Q or call him out on his reaction that could have jeopardised the whole station. They are incompatible right out of the bat, if there were more Q episodes in DS9 they would be a very difficult write after this. Fortunately for us trekkers Janeway proves to a proper adversary/partner for Q and this way we weren't robbed of Jonh de Lancie's memorable character.

 

[Patine]

"I am Tosk" is the prominent quote I take from episode 4 https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Captive_Pursuit_(episode). It's centred on the relationship between O’Brien and the titular alien that arrives on DS9. And it's also an endearing story about camaraderie, the bones of command, the hardships of the Prime Directive. It's a great episode all around proving that Season 1 DS9 is worth an attentive view.

And then we have https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Q-Less_(episode). Yes the 5th episode has Jonh de Lancie stealing the stage with a brilliant Q episode where for, once, he's not at fault. Vash and Quark's interplay and dialogue is very enjoying. After dealing with Picard this Q is more "humane" and although his usual fun shenanigans are still on display the episode wraps up in an anticlimactic way as no serious explanation is given or consequence is taken from the whole experience. I don't know if I should commend Sisko for the way he handled Q or call him out on his reaction that could have jeopardised the whole station. They are incompatible right out of the bat, if there were more Q episodes in DS9 they would be a very difficult write after this. Fortunately for us trekkers Janeway proves to a proper adversary/partner for Q and this way we weren't robbed of Jonh de Lancie's memorable character.

De Lancie, if I'm not mistaken, is the only notable actor from a Star Trek series to appear in a role of note in one of Gene Roddenberry's other project's not canonically in the same Universe as Star Trek, that being "Andromeda."

Spoiler :

Where he plays Sid Berry, aka, Sam Profitt, the scheming and unscrupulous (and murderous, as it turns out) uncle who had clawed his way up to high-level space corporate of main character Beka Valentine. Valentine, herself, is an interesting concept as a human who grew up all of her formative on starships and space stations as opposed to planetside, and even lost her virginity in a cargo hold. Though, the background and origin of all the main characters are fairly experimental and interesting, at least I think so, except maybe Temujin, who was very much a scifi cliched archetype.

 

[Ordnael]

I really have to look into Gene's other works.
How do you find Andromeda?

 

[Patine]

I really have to look into Gene's other works.
How do you find Andromeda?

It was quite different. Instead of a heyday of Galactic civilization, or rise toward it, theme, it's collapsed into a grungy, divided, and recessive state from the All-Systems Commonwealth (the UFP stand-in) and Sorbo's character, who was caught in a time dilation, and has a Rip van Winkle complex, and endeavours to do the Herculaean task (a pun to his most well-known role), and bringing this heyday back. But his crew is a salvage ship crew who tried to salvage his ship and a genetically-engineered mercenary whose not overly trustworthy. It's an interesting premise, but still has many core Roddenberry ideals to it.

 

[Ordnael]

I find episode 7 "Dax"https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dax_(episode) the weakest so far in my 2nd run through DS9. I also find it one of the weakest Star Trek courtroom drama shows. The way Jadzia immediately throws herself into a corner to preserve something, however "noble", Curzon did makes little sense to me, as it, fortunately, makes little sense to Sisko who stubbornly fights her apathy and refuses to throw down the towel in a fight to save the memory of his mentor and now new friend. I still enjoyed the show though

 

[Broken_Erika]