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Honestly I can barely remember the Search for Spock. This really doesn't speak well of the film.
Valka D'Ur said:I can't emphasize this enough: Read the novel! It answers the questions that crop up during the movie, such as "where's Carol?". The answer is that she's busy attending to Regula personnel matters - such as notifying the murdered scientists' next of kin. At the time of the voyage back to Genesis, she's on Delta IV, attending a funeral for one of her colleagues.
There's an excellent, albeit brief, subplot in the novel involving Scotty. Depending on which version of the movie you saw, you may not know that Midshipman Peter Preston (the cadet who was killed) was Scotty's nephew. In the novel, Scotty goes home to Edinburgh to be with Peter's family - and they basically blame Scotty for Peter's death (since it's apparently Scotty's fault that his nephew adored him and everything about starship engineering and wanted to follow in his uncle's footsteps).
Valka D'Ur said:Okay, this is a controversy that's been going on for decades in fandom: Which Saavik was better?
The main reason I dislike much of this movie is due to the actress who plays Saavik. WTF was Nimoy thinking, to tell her to play Saavik with no emotion at all, and with the personality of a piece of stiff cardboard?
Of course Nimoy's view was that Saavik was fully Vulcan, when the novels and unofficial backstory are that Saavik was half-Vulcan, half-Romulan, and that Spock found her on a barbaric backwater world called Hellguard, realized she was part-Vulcan, and decided to adopt her as a protegee. The novel goes into this in greater detail, and it's how Kirstie Alley played her - a hybrid, trained in Vulcan disciplines by that point, but still occasionally expressing anger or frustration as a Romulan woman would.
Valka D'Ur said:As for the movie's plot, I loved the 23rd century touches - McCoy trying to hire a shady pilot, the odd fashions, and seeing how Starfleet operates on Earth. However, it does drag a bit in some places, mostly on Genesis. I found the novel version of Saavik and David interesting; the movie versions are just ho-hum, kinda boring.
Valka D'Ur said:There was a fanzine that ran a contest prior to ST III's release, in which people would write their version of how they thought the movie would go. The winning entry was like this (paraphrased, as it's been a long time since I last read it):
Grandiose Music
Opening Credits
EXT. GENESIS PLANET
(Kirk and McCoy beam down, and see a tall, humanoid male walking toward them. He is dressed in a Vulcan burial shroud)
SPOCK
Captain, what took you so long?
Closing Credits
Grandiose Music
NinjaCow64 said:Honestly I can barely remember the Search for Spock. This really doesn't speak well of the film.
Spock said:Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it.
I mean, who rates "Wrath of Khan" over "Final Frontier"? Crazy folk!
Serutan said:Rating "The Motion Picture" above anything except "Final Frontier" is what will raise eyebrows. As you doubtless know perfectly well.
Going back to the TV shows, you seem to like the 3rd season better than most. How would you rank the seasons overall?
Sommerswerd said:Undiscovered Country has always been my fav... heresy I know, so burn me damnit, I don't care... Undiscovered Country is a masterpiece.
Not even trolling, that's my genuine opinion. But yeah, it's not going to be shared by a few people.
Is there a bigger backlash against this movie? I think it's great too, the first half anyway. It's easily as good as "Captain America: The Winter Soldier".
Reminds me of the Hirogen... Why do this? Just "cause we can?"Cool-looking aliens, but not Klingons.