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All things Star Wars

Discussion in 'Arts & Entertainment' started by EgonSpengler, Aug 15, 2014.

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Sith or Jedi?

  1. Sith

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  2. Jedi

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  1. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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  2. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    Lindsay Ellis made a video about Star Wars and (the aesthetics of) Fascism.
     
  3. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    I'd be lying if a lot of what I'm saying isn't essentially based on notes from that video. (Which is a good one and worth watching.)
     
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  4. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    Tsk tsk, presenting other people's ideas as your own is plagiarism, and you should know better. :nono:
     
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  5. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey The Poster

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    The Empire and First Order wipe out whole populations, though. They're genocidal in that way. That's not the form that Nazi genocide takes, admittedly. So the SW films engage fascism at one remove. But it's a relatively slight remove. And we never stop hearing the word "storm trooper." I'm not going to claim the films represent any terribly precise or nuanced engagement with Nazism, but it's there, in its way.
     
  6. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    In my defence, the stuff about Wolfenstein is my own contribution. Film analysis is beyond me, but reading too much in to ultraviolent Id shooters, that I can do.
     
  7. r16

    r16 not deity

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    sturmtruppen are French invention , a paper that wasn't properly read by the French Army , but eagerly by Kaiser's colonels and the lot . Assault units have been copied by Nazis , because of their fame of almost winning or whatever the Great War but they like make sense .
     
  8. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Doesn't everything eventually boil down to Rome though? The eternal struggle between empire and republic?
     
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  9. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    Issue #25 of Marvel's Darth Vader comic has officially canonized who Anakin's father/creator was.

    **Don't click if you don't want to know.** (I wish I didn't know... :shake:)

    Spoiler :


     
  10. AnthonyBoscia

    AnthonyBoscia Chieftain

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    I've been wondering...what are meta-calorians?



    Link to video.
     
  11. Takhisis

    Takhisis excuse me

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    Don't let Gori see that.

    Och, I have tae check wha yonder Traitorfishy's been a-scrievin'…
     
  12. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey The Poster

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    Looked at it. It's just there to throw the hard-core geeks off the track for the even bigger surprise in the movie. Anakin generated as I've argued, by the Force counter-reacting to Plagueis' resurrecting himself when Sidious killed him. The results of that counter-reaction, the Skywalker line, is destined to bring balance to the force: in large part by eventually taking out Sidious and Plagueis. In these panels Sidious isn't engendering Anakin; he's threatening to nip the line in the bud. Shmi's already 5-6 months pregnant.

    Doesn't budge me from my theory.
     
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  13. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    It all makes sense now.
     
  14. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    He also has an exceptionally ugly face there, some 20 years before RotS. Are they assuming that his normal face was due to long-term alchemy, rather than his ugly face resulting from the fight with Windu?

    Moreover, who's the chap with the swirly purple and black face mask?
     
  15. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    Could be artistic license so that Darth Sidious was more recognizable. It could also just be Anakin's perception of Darth Sidious or how the Force/midichlorians perceive him. Whatever the reason I think it's largely immaterial to the actual revelation that Darth Sidious instigated Anakin's creation through the Dark Side of the Force.
    Anakin's force spirit/energy. In short, he was able to tear a hole in the fabric of the living Force, and by doing so re-live the pivotal moments of his life. This was done as part of an attempt to resurrect Padmé.

    I still prefer the mystery/ambiguity laid out in the movies and in the Darth Plagueis novel (now Legends). However, this is one of the few Disney/Marvel titles I'd still recommend reading.
     
  16. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    So Jason Lajoie was right??
     
  17. Takhisis

    Takhisis excuse me

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    Do not give in to the Dark Side of the Force.
     
  18. r16

    r16 not deity

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    bah , ı will decanonize things at will .
     
  19. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    I finally got around to watching The Last Jedi over Christmas and I was not impressed. Even by the standards of a movie with space wizards and laser-swords, the movie felt riddled with plotholes -or at the most generous, plot aspects that were poorly explained and communicated to the audience. Much of the movie felt disjointed and personally there were no scenes where I felt my inner 7-year old jumping up and down on the edge of my seat in excitement.* The casino planet felt rushed and unfinished, while the scene with Leia floating in space felt like nobody bothered to create an animatic to see how ridiculous it looked on screen. (If they wanted to make it clear she had force powers, couldn't they have shown her create a Force bubble or something to shield herself from the blast while staying on the bridge?) The replacement Rebel admiral just annoyed me.** The movie engaged in a cardinal sin of "telling not showing". It was implied she was awesome because of the "Battle of Fleep-Florp" (or something like that), but then all she does is get the remnants of the Rebel fleet destroyed and lose control of her ship to a mutiny.*** The space battles were rubbish (those bombers are the beginning were just stupid, especially because Star Wars has already established on film what space figher bombers look like [the B-wings and Y-wings]) and there were no good lightsaber fights.
    I also still despise how Adam Driver is playing Kylo Ren. He feels like one of those kids who fantasize about a school shooting - not a terrifying dark knight like Darth Vader. There was also no time in the movie to gain any real sense of character development, unlike Empire. Captain Phasma made a brief reappearance and I thought "Oh, perhaps all the hype I heard about her will finally pay off". Nope. Shot dead five minutes later.
    Given I do not like J.J. Abrams as a director (Force Awakens was meh, Star Trek: Wrath of White Khan and Star Trek: Beyond were Not Good) I'm not holding out much hope for Star Wars IX. The least they can do it get whoever handled the space battle for Rogue One to come back and give me a good space battle. The Rogue One space battle was probably the best one I've seen in a long time.

    *Despite its flaws, The Force Awakens had that scene where the X-wings come in low over the water to engage the Tie Fighters and the stormtroopers on the ground.
    **Unrelated, is the entire officer corp of the Rebellion staffed by women? I get they are trying to apologize for making every female character in the OT besides Leia, Aunt Beru, and the "many Bothans died" lady a space prostitute, but I don't think I saw any male officers in the Rebellion. Further unrelated, I thought the bridges of the "Admiral Ackbar" cruiser the Rebels were fleeing in and previously seen in Rogue One and Return of the Jedi were located on a spire sticking out of the bottom of the ship, not front and center.
    ***Oh, while I don't have any objection to destroying the Super Star Destroyer in a hyperjump, the Imperials deserve it happening to them if they were stupid enough to get that close to the Rebel ship.
     
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  20. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey The Poster

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    A voice of sanity!
     

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