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Discussion in 'Arts & Entertainment' started by EgonSpengler, Aug 15, 2014.

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Sith or Jedi?

  1. Sith

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  2. Jedi

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  1. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    It worked for Deadpool.
     
  2. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    First really good image of a Knight of Ren. I like the costume overall, but that Vibro Scythe looks fairly impractical, particularly the handle. Also, "Tie Dagger" seems a rather uninspired name and design. Not like RO's more recent additions of the Striker + Reaper.

     
  3. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    I want more lightsabers. Vibrothings= bad. Lightsabers= good. BY THE WAY

     
  4. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    I like the Batman gauntlets with the bladed fins. My son has a pair... perfect for selling Halloween costumes.
     
  5. Takhisis

    Takhisis excuse me

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    So the totally-not-Sith are into falcatas now? Interesting.
     
  6. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey The Poster

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    Does that visual dictionary give a cross-section of Rey?!
     
  7. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    I wish! Looks like a miniature one of these to me:
     
  8. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Could be worse. You can do a lot of damage with a pole saw, miniature or not. Besides, in the Golden Age of FPS games availability of a chain saw was pretty much a requirement.
     
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  9. r16

    r16 not deity

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    still not following the thread on spoiler avoidance issues but it might be like background material is now getting into print .

    ı know what happened to Snoke's head . Don't get yourselves decanonized .
     
  10. caketastydelish

    caketastydelish 49ers 2019

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    I thought of a fun Star Wars question I'd like to discuss here.

    Near the end of A New Hope, when Han Solo shoots the wingman ship of Vader to knock them out of range to allow Luke to shoot the Death Star:

    What if Han Solo/Millenium Falcon actually shot Vader's ship, destroying and thus killing Vader?

    How much do you think this would have changed things?
     
  11. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    In order of most likely to least likely:

    - Vader senses the lazer blast and evades. Story continues on unchanged.
    - Vader force deflects the blast into the neighboring Tie Fighter. Story continues on unchanged.
    - Vader gets hit. His ship explodes. Vader preserves himself using force powers, à la Leia in TLJ. Vader gets rescued and takes a few weeks to recover. Story continues on largely unchanged.
    - Vader gets hit. His ship explodes and Vader dies. The Emperor now without an apprentice seeks out a new one, probably looking to Luke and/or Leia as the replacement. Assuming it's Luke because he was the one who was getting training in the force, the Emperor would have sensed him sooner or later and a confrontation would have transpired. As in V and VI, Luke refuses to give into the dark side but being the weaker/less experienced of the two, and without Vader there taking it easy on him, the Emperor ruthlessly executes him. If Luke knew about Leia at their confrontation, the Emperor would have probed his feelings much like Vader did in RotJ and discovered Leia. The Emperor would then seek her out, but much like Luke, she was an entirely good character. In her only face-to-face with Vader she didn't give up the location of the rebel base under threat of death and the destruction of her home world. It seems unlikely the Emperor would have been able to turn her and she meets a similar fate. Without both Luke and Leia the rebellion surely would have failed. Darkness reigns supreme. However, the Emperor was quite old by then and assuming he didn't discover immortality or was taught it by Darth Plagueis he likely would have died in a couple years after RotJ from natural causes. Without a suitable heir, a power vacuum forms. Several ambitious but ruthless, non-force users who are higher-ups in the empire try to take control but factions form, civil wars ensue. Eventually the empire disintegrates itself leaving smaller, less powerful groups taking control around the galaxy. 30ish years later Snoke arrives on the scene and manages to form the First Order. With Leia dead, Ben Solo never is born and can't turn into Kylo Ren so Snoke finds another force sensitive person and trains them in the dark side. Assuming Han dies or goes into hiding, the Millennium Falcon never makes it to Jaku for Rey to find it. Rey never gets discovered and Luke isn't there to teach her anyway, so she remains on Jaku waiting for her family. Snoke remains unchallenged and the dark side reigns supreme. The End.
     
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  12. Takhisis

    Takhisis excuse me

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    It's Jakku, with a double K, you user of the z-word.
     
  13. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Significant changes to the timeline are to be expected. Petty spelling changes in planet names is part of that.
     
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  14. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    I think the much more compelling option is that Luke would be broken and recruited by the Emperor and subsequently join force-trained Leia when she came to confront the Emperor much like Vader in the first movie, except they both survive. Story does not necessarily change thereafter.

    If I had to guess, however, Ben would have trained with his mother before going to Luke, and would probably go back to her before seeking Snoke. Luke would try and reconcile with Ben, who nevertheless mistrusts him and ends up flipping. In Luke's absence, he Snoke also seduces some of the other students, but some of the other students survive their revolt, as does the temple.

    Luke is distraught and leaves to Skellig Michael, leaving the temple to Leia, who then cannot lead the rapidly coalescing Resistance against the incipient First Order. She calls on Han, instead of fleeing to his old wheeling and dealing and smuggling over the loss of his son, he pours himself onto his new role. The Falcon is lost on a mission and ends up in Jakku.

    As time passes, the New Jedi Order face off with the Knights of Ren in repeated inconclusive clashes as the Resistance proves incapable to deal a decisive blow on an ever-stronger First Order. Leia sends for Luke as Han keeps looking out for the Falcon. TFA starts as it did, until Han captures the Falcon.

    The First Order is also tracking it, and as soon as Finn and Rey are captured they arrive. A skirmish ensues where the Resistance manages to repeal the attackers, but they have to stop at Maz Kanata's for resupply and repairs as they wait for reinforcements. Rey's force-affinity is revealed, and it is determined that she must join Leia's temple.

    Desperate to stop them, the First Order renews their attack, but are forced to flee when the Resistance reinforcements arrive alongside Leia's Jedis. The presence of Jedis in Han's original contingent helps prevent Kylo from taking Ren, but BB-8 is damaged and the map data lost because plot reasons.

    The First Order is momentarily happy that they have prevented the Resistance from gaining the upper hand as they are frustrated that they cannot destroy Luke. Early training of Rey with Leia reveals that she saw the plans and they are imprinted on her memory. The Resistance starts en force starts the journey to Skellig Michael, but the First Order intercepts them. A deadly battle ensues where the Resistance is outmatched by the heavy firepower of the Order's new secret weapon: the Dreadnought. If you feel a lightsaber duel is necessary, Kylo boards the Resistance flagship with a cherry-picked team and engages Finn and Rey, who take turns with the lightsaber but are clearly being overpowered before Leia or Han or both arrive with reinforcents, prompting Kylo to flee. Leia decides the best chance they have is to send Rey alone in an inconspicuous smaller vessel, and Han sacrifices his ship and himself to allow Rey to leave undetected as the rest of the Resistance fleet retreats.

    End ep VII, pretty much as it actually went except there are Jedis, there is no Death Star III, and the opening of VIII is pretty much the logical cobclusion of where we left off.
     
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  15. Takhisis

    Takhisis excuse me

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    Oh, yes, but remember the special rules from the Old!Extended Universe about names with one more/fewer consonant. ;)
     
  16. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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  17. Synsensa

    Synsensa Warlord Retired Moderator

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    FINALLY.
     
  18. Takhisis

    Takhisis excuse me

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    It should be better, at least, than having an Alec Guinness lookalike on stage with a fake voice and daubing some CGI on him in post-production.

    But this is more of the Disney+ crap. I'm getting tired of the media arms race.
     
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  19. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    Ewan is the Ian McDiarmid of the Light Side.

    That said, I can only imagine Denis Lawson right now...

    Spoiler :
    Nephew...



    I AM DISAPPOINT
    :mischief:
     
  20. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    I'm as bitter and disillusioned as they come with regards to the Disney-era of SW, but I don't understand this reaction to the Disney+ shows at all. Other than a few tidbits here and there, it's hard to make a judgement call on how good or bad these shows (including all the Marvel stuff) will ultimately be.

    I mean I'm way more excited about the prospects for the four new and returning Star Wars (TCW, The Mandalorian, and the untitled Cassian Andor & Obi-Wan) series than I am about the final Saga movie. The leaked trailer & footage for The Mandalorian, which is the only one we've actually been able to see the finished product, I thought was simply stunning.
     
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