Allah Akbar: War in the Middle East (PTW)
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eveningstar
Chieftain
good scenario, teaches you to ignore all current stuff. if Egypt and israel gang up they are unbeatable. That said, playing Egypt is easiest.
Yurt
Warlord
I just downloaded it and looked at it with the editor and it looks great! I'll come back once I've played it but judging by the incredible map and all the cities and infrastructure it will be good.
Yurt
Warlord
I started playing as Syria. Here's what I found:
Overall this is a great scenario. The troop placement and resources are all carefully done. The national borders are nicely done to look like the actual borders. Even little details like the Hezbollah guerillas and the Suez Canal make it better.
Now here's what I would recommend changing:
Start the countries with governments. It would add more realism if the different countries had their different forms of government. You could add Ba'athist government for Syria and Iraq.
Also, in the scenario I think there are too many Turkish cities, even if it is a detailed scenario. If some Turkish (and possibly Russian) cities were deleted it could speed up the loading process.
Turkey should have some of the cities in Northern Cyprus representing the Turkish Cypriote Republic that is currently ruling that area.
Also a small detail: add the Pyramids to an Egyptian city or else don't allow them to be built.
All in all this is a great scenario! Good work!
Overall this is a great scenario. The troop placement and resources are all carefully done. The national borders are nicely done to look like the actual borders. Even little details like the Hezbollah guerillas and the Suez Canal make it better.
Now here's what I would recommend changing:
Start the countries with governments. It would add more realism if the different countries had their different forms of government. You could add Ba'athist government for Syria and Iraq.
Also, in the scenario I think there are too many Turkish cities, even if it is a detailed scenario. If some Turkish (and possibly Russian) cities were deleted it could speed up the loading process.
Turkey should have some of the cities in Northern Cyprus representing the Turkish Cypriote Republic that is currently ruling that area.
Also a small detail: add the Pyramids to an Egyptian city or else don't allow them to be built.
All in all this is a great scenario! Good work!
thanks for the feedback , i really appreciate it!
in the mod more governments will be avariable , sadly i dont know how to give a country a government without making it impossible to select that country (i could make iraq a one party republic but i would either be unable to play iraq or only able to play iraq) , if someone knows if this is possible please tell.
in the less cities version of the game all the 'flavor' cities (cities without real economic or strategic use) are removed , in the less cities version turkey , saudi arabia and iran have only about 1/3 of the cities they have in the normal version
since turkish cyprus is pratically independent from turkey and there is a lot of talk about reunite the island and join the eu lately o though it would be better to place it under the european sphere of influence. but if more ppl thing that Famagusta and Rizorkarpasso should be turkish im more that willing to change that
whoeps! its seems i forgot to build the Pyramids on the Normal Version! (the less cities has them , thats becouse on my slow pc i could not test the normal version so some details vent wrong) thanks for telling me!
in the mod more governments will be avariable , sadly i dont know how to give a country a government without making it impossible to select that country (i could make iraq a one party republic but i would either be unable to play iraq or only able to play iraq) , if someone knows if this is possible please tell.
in the less cities version of the game all the 'flavor' cities (cities without real economic or strategic use) are removed , in the less cities version turkey , saudi arabia and iran have only about 1/3 of the cities they have in the normal version
since turkish cyprus is pratically independent from turkey and there is a lot of talk about reunite the island and join the eu lately o though it would be better to place it under the european sphere of influence. but if more ppl thing that Famagusta and Rizorkarpasso should be turkish im more that willing to change that
whoeps! its seems i forgot to build the Pyramids on the Normal Version! (the less cities has them , thats becouse on my slow pc i could not test the normal version so some details vent wrong) thanks for telling me!
Yurt
Warlord
More suggestions:
Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel.
Jenin should replace Nablus as it is a larger city. Also the Palestinian cities could probably use a bit more population.
Make infantry still buildable. This is what I did in my normal Civ3 and it makes sense. Infantry are still way more widely used than Mech Infantry, especially in the Middle East. Personally I would make infantry defend and attack at the same value so that they are actually useful on offence too.
Make everything cost less. In most of my cities it would take over 25 turns to build a tank. There should be the potential for huge army buildups without it taking so many turns.
That's all I can think of for now.
Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel.
Jenin should replace Nablus as it is a larger city. Also the Palestinian cities could probably use a bit more population.
Make infantry still buildable. This is what I did in my normal Civ3 and it makes sense. Infantry are still way more widely used than Mech Infantry, especially in the Middle East. Personally I would make infantry defend and attack at the same value so that they are actually useful on offence too.
Make everything cost less. In most of my cities it would take over 25 turns to build a tank. There should be the potential for huge army buildups without it taking so many turns.
That's all I can think of for now.
i made Tel Aviv the capitol becouse most (99%) embassies are there and there is talk to make Jerusalem Palestine's Capitol (hell would freeze over before the Isrealies allow that)
done
will be in next versionin the Mod the Modern Infantry unit (by Balou) will play a key role , the infantry will be renamed to militia and will be the only draftable unit
in the mod the cost will be different , but i need more people like you to give me feedback before i decide how exacly , i suggest you play Accelerated Production for now
thanks for feedback , i will put your name in the Credits.txt please specify if you would like something different as Yurt.
Procifica
ACW Scenario Creator
Been trying to figure this one out myself.
burning_phoneix
Chieftain
I cant wait to try this scenario unfourtanatly I cant right now. I 'm Saudi Arabian and I cant wait to play as my country (Oh and the proper prunociation is Allahu Akbar, trust me)
Maybe if you seperate all technologies that provide a new government from the tech tree, give each of these technologies as a free tech to the civ you want and make it the favorite government type.
It will take some turns but at least everyone has the government it shall have (after some turns).
It will take some turns but at least everyone has the government it shall have (after some turns).
Procifica
ACW Scenario Creator
Just make a few non-era techs with the government types, then assign each civ the tech it should have for the government.
HollandPTW
Batavia
A very nice scenario (what part of the Netherlands do you live ?)
Procifica
ACW Scenario Creator
Assign each player the government type you want them to have, and set the countries to each player. If someone wants to play as a different nation, they just swap player 1 with the nation they want to play. It should work.
Procifica
ACW Scenario Creator
I didn't know this forum was for making political and "highly controversial" comments like that, nagorak.
Feanor, I agree with the user-friendliness, but its nice to give the player the option.
Feanor, I agree with the user-friendliness, but its nice to give the player the option.
sure if people like to modify the scenario to choose a civilization they may.... i might make such a version some day , oh i got right now a twice as powerfull pc so i might continue my with my scenario.... some day... right now im watching the real war so the Mod may become a Post Gulf war 2 mod...
Das Moot
Chieftain
this is one hell of a scenario, well put together, shows that you really put time into this mofo, thanks man!
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