Allegation; Hizbullah had chemical weapons...

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... but apparently the good old IAF destroyed them all, without a single leak, 100% success rate. I think this story is baloney, but I'd appreciate your thoughts on it;-

http://newsblaze.com/story/20061001225341east.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Stories.html

The Little Known WMD Threat During The Second War in Lebanon

By Yoram East

A well informed source in the Israeli intelligence community, who cannot be identified, says the Israeli air force raids, following the July 12 Hezbollah attack on an IDF border patrol, were aimed first of all at "Hezbollah's strategic weapons' secret locations." The source added that this initial goal did not include "ordinary" short and medium range rockets but was specifically aimed against the heavier weapon systems supplied by Iran with the Zalzal rockets topping the list. "Our first aim was to neutralize the heavy ones and their launching systems since we had solid information the Hezbollah had a plan to use chemical war heads.

Information the Israeli intelligence had regarding chemical weapons in Hezbollah hands was validated by friendly intelligence organizations, including a recent DIA memo. The source also said the Iranian manufacturers together with their Syrian allies toyed with the idea of "testing" their CW by letting the Hezbollah launch them on a limited scale while they would remain in the shadows in an attempt to wash their hands of such an attack when, as could be expected, the world community would react with an outcry of fierce criticism. The Iranian CW program centered at Damgahn, some 300 kilometers east of Tehran, manufactures an estimated 1,000 tons a year of various chemical nerve agents.

The Syrians pushed for at least preparing a strategic arsenal to be used if Israel would move on to destroy Hezbollah strongholds, assessing that this time, due to the suddenness of events, the Israeli population would not be properly prepared for that kind of attack. As events unfolded, the Israeli intelligence learned that Sheikh Hassan Nasarallah, who was in Damascus just a few days prior to the July 12 attack, had raised some concerns over the possibility of a massive Israeli reaction if he gave the order to go ahead with the abduction plan.

His Syrian liaison officers and representatives of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' al-Quds Force told him he could then retaliate by launching a chemical war head. They assessed it would be highly effective because the Israeli population would not have been put on high alert as was done during the two Iraq wars when anti-gas attack kits were distributed across the country, and homes, offices and air raid shelters, were sealed with special nylon sheets.

However, when the hostilities erupted the first move Israel undertook was a massive air raid to first and foremost destroy every target which was part of the Zalzal Project. Thus Nasarallah's gamble he could wreak a catastrophic CW blow on Israel was shattered before he had a chance to carry it out.

The air raids were planned in several stages. The first and most vital incursion was to destroy all Zalzal depots, which soon enough were proven highly successful. The second crucial stage came with the total destruction of what became known as the Hezbollah high rise enclave in south Beirut and where their offices and communication centers were situated.

The prime purpose in this instance was to destroy Hezbollah's so-called scientific wing facilities and not, as was widely believed, to catch Sheikh Nasarallah or even anyone of his skilled scientific workforce who have widespread links to Shiite students and teachers in colleges throughout Europe and the U.S., but first and foremost to Iranian WMD experts often housed in these buildings where they had special guest apartments for visiting experts.

Equipment seized by IDF ground forces in small Lebanese towns such as Maise-e-Jabel, where sophisticated listening and monitoring devices were captured, as well as documents revealing that some monitoring devices were programmed to shadow Israeli hospitals and the army's medical corps evacuation network, could have enabled Hezbollah to follow-up on the nature of damages caused. Obviously they were hoping to learn about the overall affect of the chemical warheads as well had they been launched. The discoveries in Maise-e-Jabel left no doubt that the air force had to go on several more rounds to utterly destroy Hezbollah's enclave in Beirut.

The use of Chinese made radar guided C-802 cruise missiles became possible on the fourth day of the fighting when both Iran and Syria agreed the flare-up was a good opportunity to test them. A convoy of Syrian military trucks carrying the system entered Lebanon through Tellkalakh and the Tripoli highway in the north, and Iranian operators arrived directly from Tehran with their Hezbollah trainees to carry out the launch of three such missiles. One of them hit an Israeli missile boat; the others sank two freighters, an Egyptian one and a Cambodian one.

This system is too massive to be smuggled through mountain passages and therefore every bridge, every road and every road junction going from Syria into Lebanon had to be immediately destroyed following the first unanticipated cruise missile attack.

A number of commando raids into the Beqaa Valley were designed to detect and destroy chemical warhead storages. Unsurprisingly such finds, whether verified or not, were not made public. However, Hezbollah militiamen sealed off the entire vicinity after the last raid on Boudai, clearly indicating they were worried over some sort of possible leakages. The same precautions were undertaken in south Beirut where Hezbollah fighters prevented free access to their destroyed enclave.

According to the intelligence source it is assumed Hezbollah will attempt in the future to proceed with two basic options as envisioned by the Revolutionary Guards and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Tehran. The first would be to launch various types of rockets, including modified Zalzals from aboard medium sized boats or freighters in the Mediterranean. Their success in hitting targets some 75 to 85 kilometers from their launch sites into northern Israel suggests they could, in theory, also launch a rocket from the sea to hit the heavily populated urban area around Tel Aviv. This type of a naval terror attack is an idea al-Qaeda too is known to have been toying with and is a significant threat to Europe and North America as well.

Another preference was to improve the scheme of aerial suicide bombers, al-Qaeda style, by establishing an "air wing" which could "sneak in without the warning sign emitted by a hijacked plane." Already in 2004 Iran equipped the Hezbollah with UAVs of the type Mirsad-1 and the Ababil outfitted with cameras and GPS systems as part of an overall guidance structure monitored by wireless radio and telephone systems all the way from Tehran, just like the U.S. Air Force and the CIA handle UAVs armed with Hellfire missiles from a base in Colorado.

The IDF shared its findings with the U.S. which regards this information as vital for U.S. national security, and because of the importance to show jihadists that their systems, even when highly sophisticated, can and will be destroyed with or without heavy collateral damage. When Sheikh Nasarallah boasted towards the end of the campaign that within hours he would destroy Haifa, and when realizing the Hezbollah and their handlers were ready to take their campaign all the way, Israel had no choice but to react aggressively with an all out assault up and down and across the width of Lebanon to safeguard the lives of hundreds of thousands. Thus Nasarallah's Zalzal depots, his planning offices, communication systems and even vital land routes, had to be totally destroyed by the Israeli air force, navy and commandos.
 
I found the article to be inherently biased due to the writer's occupation and to be untrue based on the merits of on trusting an unnamed source for accurate information.
 
I think that if it was even half true, the Israelis would have used this as justification for the conflict when the press were on their case.
 
I wouldn't put it past 'em. But I will call BS on the report for its as fishy smelling as the fish market.
 
skadistic said:
I wouldn't put it past 'em. But I will call BS on the report for its as fishy smelling as the fish market.

hello ladies? :cool:
 
Even if the Hezbollah is considered a rogue militia organization to some nation-states(which i think it is a moderate stance between the extreme of other position such as "terrorist" or "freedom fighters."),i would not believe such a crude organization would do such horrible thing,it would discredit their cause.
 
but they only care what the muslim world thinks, would the muslim world care if they attacked israel with chemical weapons?
 
"A well informed source in the Israeli intelligence community, who cannot be identified"

Sorry i stopped reading there. Atlest they started off the story with telling the reader that they are pretty much full of it.
 
Mr. Dictator said:
but they only care what the muslim world thinks, would the muslim world care if they attacked israel with chemical weapons?
If they launch bio or chem weapons on Israel they would cheer and dance in the street. The more dead jews the more they would celebrate and burn flags. Yes the muslim world would care but for all the wrong reasons.
 
skadistic said:
If they launch bio or chem weapons on Israel they would cheer and dance in the street. The more dead jews the more they would celebrate and burn flags. Yes the muslim world would care but for all the wrong reasons.

that was my point ;)
 
Interesting allegations. And disgusting (but unfortunately far from unexpected ; militant terror organization and humane warfare don't go along) if true.

However, for some odd reasons lots of people (and I'm one) tend to take allegations of WMDs with some salt these days. All the more so with very limited evidence.

If all of this is true, extremely good job on the IAF's part, though.
 
Israel shouldn't be trying to justify the war now. If this were true, they should have said so then.
 
Israel is doing the same thing that bush tried to do, since they failed in their stated mission, now theyre looking for anything that would make it look like they were successful in their aggression. And even classifying Hizballah as a terrorist organization doesnt make sense. Something i dont understand is why people continue to believe an accusation as unfounded as that. Since when is it considered terrorist to defend your homeland? Why is it ok for the US or Israel to undertake "pre-emptive" attacks, but terrorist for the country under attack to defend itself? Hizballah was created only after the Israeli "Defence" Force invaded Lebanon in 1982, and was able to drive Israel out of Lebanon in 2000, except for the Shebaa Farms, which is why they will continue to fight. Another thing is Hizballah cannot lay down its arms, because as soon as it does, Lebanon will be defenceless, and Israel will simply invade again, as the Lebanese Army is pretty much handicapped by obselete equipment, and international regulations.
 
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Step by step debunking your post.

It isn't Israel that is claiming that hizballah had chemical weapons, just some "analyst", nobody believes it anyway.
Since when is defending your homeland by attacking another's without any justifacation?
Inaded lebanon to drive out the PLO, same thing as it did now only now it ws unseccesful.
Shabba farms are not and never were lebanese, just another brilliant misinformation scheme that works on the small minded.
Why would Israel invade again if there was not threat to them? Whre was the last time Israel invaded a country without there actually being a threat to Israel's security?
 
LOL wow your unbelievably deluded. Israels 6 Day War, pre-emptive strikes on airfields, just because they assumed that they were gonna be attacked. Saying that Shebaa isnt Lebanese land is like saying Alaska isnt American land, so thats complete bs. It isnt up to Israel to decide whats Lebanese land and what isnt. Israel has no right to keep the tens of thousands of arabs prisoner with no charges against them, and with absolutely no evidence. Therefore, it is Hizballah's right to capture Israeli SOLDIERS, to attempt to free the arab CIVILIANS who are being kept in Israeli prisons.
 
Gen.Rommel said:
LOL wow your unbelievably deluded. Israels 6 Day War, pre-emptive strikes on airfields, just because they assumed that they were gonna be attacked.
The Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian High Command all mobilized entire divisions past the armstice lines under the guise of military training or in coordination with the other two nations, the Egyptians closed the passage of Israeli ships via the Suez Canal and there were multiple acts of mutual hostility from thier side which included artillery shellings for weeks before the Israeli high command decided to blow their respective Air Forces into dust. It was a pre-emptive strike that the Egyptrians themselves admitted crippled their already existant war plans. We didn't land on them out of the blue, we simply beat them to it.

Saying that Shebaa isnt Lebanese land is like saying Alaska isnt American land, so thats complete bs. It isnt up to Israel to decide whats Lebanese land and what isnt.
It's the UN's right, then? Because the UN Ruled Israeli forces had completely withdrawn from lebanon as per the respective resolutions regarding the fact (and believe me, I've read all of them in a reply to a post by Princeps).

Israel has no right to keep the tens of thousands of arabs prisoner with no charges against them, and with absolutely no evidence. Therefore, it is Hizballah's right to capture Israeli SOLDIERS, to attempt to free the arab CIVILIANS who are being kept in Israeli prisons.
A civilian captured in a Hizzbollah command center with an AK-47 in one hand and a yellow ribbon around their head while screaming DEATH TO AMERICA! DEATH TO ISRAEL! ALLAH IS GREAT! is as much as a civilian as a Sgt. in a Commando unit is.
 
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