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Aloha Embassy

Discussion in 'Team Epsilon' started by General_W, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    Aloha Embassy

    Team Aloha
    Leader: Chief Aloha
    Civ: Catherine, Russia
    Traits: Creative, Financial
    UU: Cossack
    Contact: 250 AD – Turn 124

    Proposed first Letter:

    That's Theology at 40% - try to undercut a possible Loco deal… and Archery at just over 20% ala DaveMcW's "obsolete tech missing to only 1 civ" formula.

    Comments? Feedback?
    Would like to send this off soon.
    :salute:
     
  2. peter grimes

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    Send away :)
     
  3. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    ok - Thanks Peter! :salute:

    Since the save is already on the move (Loco just sent it to Piffle) I'm going to go ahead and send this.
     
  4. Memphus

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    :lol: Interesting to Note that Aloha is the weakest on the Power Score.....
     
  5. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    Heard back from Aloha,

    I responded with this quick note:
    So now we wait and see!
     
  6. Memphus

    Memphus Deity

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    Cough.... Cough...Aloha?
     
  7. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    I don't make mistakes like that.
    There's no proof I said that.

    :mischief:
     
  8. DaveMcW

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    I'm not sure why you're asking for gold when they have a tech to sell.
     
  9. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    Because we already have a deal with Loco to get Music.
     
  10. DaveMcW

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    I thought that was a roadmap, not a contract.
     
  11. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    eh - it's still a deal eitherway. Would be very poor form to start off by ignoring the phase 1 deal, imho.
    The ability to break the agreement is just stated in there in case someting strategy-changing comes up... at least that's my read on it.
     
  12. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    Well – I'm guessing that's a "No" on our proposal to sell Aloha Archery and Theology… since they now have both. :mad:

    I propose sending this note:
    Tried to keep the tone light and upbeat while still putting over that we did, in fact, notice that they never wrote back to us.

    Thoughts? Feedback?

    EDIT: Sent 2/12/07
     
  13. Memphus

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    yeah i would say give them one more chance.

    If they still don't respond then I would stop sending them notes
     
  14. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    ok - sending this as well!
    :salute:
     
  15. gbno1fan

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    I don't think we should stop sending notes if they don't respond. As long as we are attempting to talk to them, there is hope for deals in the future. If we just stop trying it makes it a lot harder to work with them later.

    Turn the other cheek.
     
  16. General_W

    General_W Councilor & Merlot Noble

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    I appreciate the note of optimism GB! I'm ok with turning the other cheek; even eating dirt if need be... as long as it helps makes Epsilon Strong.

    We just need to make sure that perseverance doesn't turn into pestering. Sometimes, the best thing to do is lay low, not offended anyone, and hope they have a blowout with their current allies and come to us looking for a new friend.

    How to tell where the line is? Well, that's the million dollar question, and I appreciate any insight anyone wants to offer.
    It's only been 4 days since I sent this letter to aloha, I think we need to give them at least a week before we try a follow-up note.
     
  17. General_W

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    ok - it's time to take another swing at Aloha... but I have a new target in mind....
    Open Borders!

    Hear me out... IF they were willing to go for this, sure they might scout our coast - but with our Caravel out and about, we're likely to scout theirs first. Also… Aloha still doesn't have a religion. If we can find them before they found Islam, then we've got a chance to spread Confucianism into their lands.
    Not to mention the more direct benefit of just getting some additional long-distance trade routes.
    Anyone oppose trying to do this?

    Also – now that Aloha has Feudalism, we can potentially trade with them tech-for-tech. (Although, I think we should make an offer to Innovia at the same time… see if we can split their alliance a bit)

    Here's a proposed letter:

    Comments? Feedback?
     
  18. Memphus

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    I think it is a good idea but they probably won't go for it. (we have no :traderoute: yet)

    Well maybe it isn't a good idea. Because they may get a unit near at lands at some point, and we don't want them scouting at all. I would say only go open borders if we can't circumnavigate without it.
     
  19. General_W

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    Ok – I guess we can hold off on offering Open Borders till we actually meet Aloha.
    It's just… this landmass we've run into is right where I guesstimated Aloha would be – I won't be surprised if we meet them in the next 10 turns.

    Just as our continent blocks sailing all the way around by the North, I expect Aloha's land will do the same – as we've encountered with the ice meeting the land.

    Or maybe this is just a big secret island like I also speculated and I'm all worked up over nothing ;)

    Here's a letter without the Open Borders language.
    This better?

    Spoiler No Open Borders Talk :

    Hail Aloha!

    Congratulations on the magnificent Hanging Gardens! A true wonder of the world befitting your great empire.

    We wish to seek you’re a proposal to bring our people closer together.

    A Trade for Feudalism! We noticed you recently learned the secret of Feudalism (700:science: ). Would you be interested in trading this knowledge for our deep secrets of Philosophy (800:science: )?

    What do you say?
    We eagerly await your reply.

    Foreign Minister General W
    Servant of the Leader
    Epsilon Team!
     
  20. peter grimes

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    I'm pro Open Borders with Aloha. I'm not really sure what the evil is if they scout us out a little - let's just make sure they can't see any of our military, so they will have to keep guessing as to our numbers and types of units.

    Besides - if we can harvest another gold or two from religion, plus getting a little LOS, that's well worth it, to me ;)

    So I say, leave the OB offer in. I doubt they'd accept it, in any case :shrug:
     

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