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Alright to Starve your City, kill your population just to Rush a Great Person?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by wc3promet, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. wc3promet

    wc3promet Chieftain

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    Alright to Starve your City, kill your population just to Rush a Great Person?

    It seems to be as evil as Slavery, only that it produces far better results. It's only workable on Large Cities.

    Warning: This will inevitably kill off 1 pop per turn until you are left with only 1 pop.
     
  2. Toshiro126

    Toshiro126 Chieftain

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    I didn't even know you could rush a Great Person. I thought rushing production was only for buildings and units. :confused:
     
  3. kurdi

    kurdi Chieftain

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    I did that once in order to produce a great artist that I badly needed before year 2050 in order to put my third cultural city over the 50,000 culture points mark. The city had a population of 14 or so and by the time the great artist finally popped out it was down to 6.

    Although it did work and I won the game, it really wasn't very satisfying. I mean, cities that are being starved to death reasonably do not churn out a Shakespeare or a Raphael in the real world. Creating armies through slavery makes much more sense than that, imho, because its factually plausible.
     
  4. Toshiro126

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    Interesting. I guess the only time I would do it then is in Kurdi's situation, when you are going for a win. Other than that I don't think it is something I would do.....
     
  5. petey

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    If you're over your happiness/health cap, then those extra citizens aren't doing anything anyways, so if you can get a productive specialist to help generate GP points, then it's very much worth it.
     
  6. Reinhard

    Reinhard Arrrr!!

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    Aww, come on. It's completely plausible for great poets or painters describing pain, torment and suffering to spawn out of a place like that. They'd probably be the rich kids that didn't do the actual starving though.
     
  7. DementedAvenger

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    Since when have great poets been rich?
     
  8. Tristram

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    But plague infected cities do sometimes generate Isaac Newtons...
     
  9. Lone Soldier

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    Originally Posted by kurdi
    I mean, cities that are being starved to death reasonably do not churn out a Shakespeare or a Raphael in the real world.


    Isn't that where the term 'starving artist' came from?
     
  10. walkerjks

    walkerjks Chieftain

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    Starve away. Just don't starve them off too quickly (unless you need the great person super fast). Putting a city with a granary at -1 food, the extra specialists will last a lot longer than simply sticking the same city at -7 food. It's not worth 3 more specialists since you will lose the bonus specialists (and the population) very quickly.
     
  11. Smirk

    Smirk Chieftain

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    Its not really starving until your granary is empty its just a negative food supply.
     
  12. MikeH

    MikeH Chieftain

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    They have to be, they make no money from their poetry, so the income from owning half of Scotland keeps them going :) .
     
  13. Carewolf

    Carewolf Gammelt røvhul

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    Starving cities are generally something to consider in the end-game. I noticed it the other day in a game where I was getting behind in Space Victory (had focused on domination but the conquest grinded to a halt). I switched necessary farm-land and windmills to workshops and mines, and moved people working ocean to being engineers. Sure the city would drop a point every 10 turns, but I could produce a spaceship-part every 5 turns.
     
  14. jeremiahrounds

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    good idea. hmm
     
  15. larsonwd

    larsonwd Chieftain

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    North Korea starved its cities to complete the Mahattan project (build nukes) in real life....That wouldn't work in a democratic country.

    Perhaps if you use representation or universal suffrage, you couldn't assign specialists if the city is starving....just a thought...
     

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