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Alternate Leaders for revealed civs.

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by moysturfurmer, Jul 23, 2016.

  1. MistyRonin

    MistyRonin Chieftain

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    Charles V (I'm not sure if for Germany or for Spain, he ruled both the HRE and the different Spanish countries and colonies).



    As a leade ability, the leader unit "Tercio" (already seen in Civ V), plus some military bonus.

    "These powerful infantry squares were also much used by other European powers, especially the Imperial Army of the Holy Roman Empire."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tercio
     
  2. moysturfurmer

    moysturfurmer Chieftain

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    Trump shouldn't get bonuses to Industrial Districts. He's a Hotel Magnate, not a creator of things. Sad! He should generate bonus gold based on tourism & receive a huge gold bonus for each district adjacent to an airport. Cow resources provide +10 culture and food (because of the very great Trump Steaks™. the best.) The Wall should have a maintenance cost of 2, but the other civ it borders should pay for it, believe me.

    Re: the HRE... I'm convinced the HRE is gonna be added in at a later date and you'd be able to choose from a few leaders of other civs to rule it. Barbarossa, Charlemagne, Charles V, etc.
     
  3. The Kings Raven

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    I based Trump's advantages on what he said he'd do if he's elected rather than what he's already done.

    Trump has said "I will be the greatest jobs president that god every created. I tell you that. I will bring back our jobs from China, Mexico and other places."

    Since he's stalking about China and Mexico he means manufacturing, which is why I went for industry bonuses. As far as I know Trump's never made any promises to boost tourism.
     
  4. UnknownHuman

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    Very unlikely since the HRE is a very heterogeneous political entity, however I can see more Holy Roman Emperors being in the game if they add Bohemia and/or Hungary.
     
  5. moysturfurmer

    moysturfurmer Chieftain

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    Trump never said anything about boosting tourism, it was just a reference to the fact that he himself makes money from people/tourists patronizing his hotel chains, resorts, and casinos.
     
  6. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    I would like to see what would Vladimir Putin's leader ability and agenda be.
     
  7. UnknownHuman

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    The agenda would probably have to do with panrusse/eurasianism ideas, so he wants the control over his continent and little presence from other civilizations, except if they take part in a pact of defence or are not a threat due to their weak position, if other civilizations intervene inside his continent he’ll dislike them.
    The leader ability would probably be related to natural resources, some sort of gold bonus for trade routes according to the presence of oil/aluminium/uranium in the city.
     
  8. moysturfurmer

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    Or maybe something like huge boosts to growth for every unit of horses (because Putin's shirtless equestrian shots get the populace all hot and bothered of course)

    Or if you're not comfortable with the feelings those photographs arouse in you then maybe some bonus to espionage would suffice. He was after all KGB before head of state.

    Something like Theatre Squares and Encampments each reduce a city's Spy production cost by 33%. Yields from successful spy missions are 50% higher.
     
  9. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    He gets a culture bonus for taking his shirt off, and can invade city-states without formal declarations of war. :mischief:
     
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    No leader unique unit "bear rider"? :confused:
     
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  11. TheSpaceCowboy

    TheSpaceCowboy "Save a horse..."

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    Here are some ideas for alternate French leaders:


    Louis the IX
    Leader Ability: Canonized King

    • Build siege weapons in less time.
    • Pay no maintenance cost on siege units or ground units attached to them while they are besieging an enemy civilization's City-Center
    • Units besieging a city gain Faith points equal to the yields of the tiles surrounding the City-Center.
    • Siege units have increased effectiveness against Holy Cities of foreign religions.


    Louis XIV
    Leader Ability: Sun King

    • Every time France receives a Eureka bonus along the Civics tree it acquires points towards its next Golden Age.
    • Louis' Golden Ages last slightly longer and have better bonuses.
    • Likewise for "We Love the King Day" in individual cities.


    Napoleon
    Leader Ability: Vive la Revolution!

    • Killing units from enemy Civilizations nets France minor bonuses to its current Government Legacy Bonus, and capturing foreign cities nets major bonuses to such (more so even for Capitals).
    • French ground units gain a significant bonus to attack on the turn after switching their Government.


    Charles de Gaulle
    Leader Ability: La Résistance

    • French cities captured by other Civilizations only require half the amount of unhappiness to generate armed Rebel fighters.
    • De Gaulle also gains access to the Foreign Legion:
    • Whenever another Civilization which France has met and is not currently at war with produces its unique unit for the first time, a maintenance-free copy of that unit automatically appears in the nearest French barracks.
    • Foreign Legion units receive a bonus to attack the farther they are from any French territory (up to 10 hexes), and a penalty to defense within French boarders.
     
  12. TheSpaceCowboy

    TheSpaceCowboy "Save a horse..."

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    Thomas Jefferson
    Leader Unique Ability: Social Contract Theorist
    • In each era, Jefferson has access to three additional Government Policies from which to select (one Military, Economic, and Diplomatic, respectively) for a greater degree of versatility.
    • These become available immediately upon entering a new era, also allowing a free change of government upon progressing to the new era.
    • Ancient era examples include:
    Lewis and Clark Expedition (Military): Upon entering a Tribal Village, select two bonuses from the full list
    Louisiana Purchase (Economic): Upon founding a city, purchase any six hexes in the second or third radius for free.
    Monticello (Diplomatic): Each technology Eureka earns an envoy to any science-focused City-State, each civil Eureka earns an envoy to a culture-focused City-State.​

    • Additionally, Jefferson has access to the Frontiersman, an Industrial era recon unit with increased movement, terrain navigation, vision, and strength against barbarians.
     
  13. TheSpaceCowboy

    TheSpaceCowboy "Save a horse..."

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    Tokugawa
    Leader Ability: A Debt of Honor

    • Japanese units receive a bonus to attack against any unit from a foreign Civilization that has killed a Japanese unit.
    • Receives the Ronin unique unit:
    • The Ronin is a Medieval Era melee unit that cannot be built or purchased. A Ronin only appears when a Samurai has been killed, forming for free and without maintenance in the nearest Barracks.
    • A Ronin receives an additional bonus to attack against the unit that killed its Samurai master.
    • Ronin cannot form a Corps or Army.
     
  14. TheSpaceCowboy

    TheSpaceCowboy "Save a horse..."

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    Akhenaten
    Leader Ability: Great Hymn to the Aten

    • As soon as only one more Religion can be founded, Egypt automatically receives a free Great Prophet (or a free Apostle if it’s already founded a Religion).
    • Whenever Egypt changes its Government, it may change all of its religious beliefs as well.
    • Previous beliefs held return to the pot, and can be selected by other Civilization towards their Religion, or Egypt again if no other Civilization selects them in the interim.


    The advantage here is in Akhenaten's versatility, changing his Beliefs (and the benefits they offer to him and those following his Religion) as the situation changes throughout the game. It's another instance of playing the map.
     
  15. Morningcalm

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    That's Tutankhamen in that picture, not Akhenaten. :p
     
  16. TheSpaceCowboy

    TheSpaceCowboy "Save a horse..."

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    Fixed
     
  17. Ikael

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    Unique Social Policies for great leaders sounds utterly awesome to me! I was also hoping for unique pantheons for certain civs (India) but this is also a great idea! Very good designed leader all around :)

    Ok, and now for more Unique leaders:

    >>> Frederik the great of the Germans

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    UA: Poets and thinkers

    All your city centers will yield +1GP point depending on their location. Unlocks the Scholsspark UD and the Prussian infantry UU

    Next to mountains: +1 GP points towards great engineers (in addition to other)
    Next to river: +1 GP point towards great writters (in addition to other)
    Next to tundra or desert: +1 GP points towards great artists
    Next to grasslands or plains: +1 GP points towards great musicians
    Next to rainforests or forests: +1 GP points towards scientists
    Next to the coast: +1 GP points toward merchants


    Frederick's UA is a mere touch of flavour that could make city placement more fun for the player but is, on itself, quite minor. Keep in mind, however, that his strenght will come from the two other uniques that his UA will unlock: the Prussian infantry, and most importantly, the Schlosspark.

    Unique District: Schlosspark. Replaces the entertainement district. Generates extra GP points according to which districts they are next to (ex: +1 GP towards great artists if next to a culture district, etc) will yield +2 science for each adyacent wonder

    An utterly poweful district, well developed cities with many districts will benefit inmensely for the Scholsspark, turning them into great people factories, while wonders will make it help your scientific advance as well. Also, keep in mind the crazy synergies that this district provides: it will make Germany the only civ with not only one, but two different UD, which in addition to their "imperial cities" free district, would make Germany into an urban powerhouse, getting 3 potential "free", easy to build districts to each city (!).

    UU Prussian infantry. Moves faster trought roads and railoads, recieves science from kills.

    A small flavour touch, the Prussian infantry will make attacking Germany a more risky decision, since it will be able to protect herself better thanks to the Prussian Infantry's increased movement bonuses and the scientific rewards for winning combats.
     
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  18. TheSpaceCowboy

    TheSpaceCowboy "Save a horse..."

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    Well, Arabia just stole Akhenaten's Leader Ability, so here's an updated idea:
    • Akhenaten may use Great Prophet points to purchase a second Great Prophet to be used as an Apostle, thus lowing the total number of religions in the game by one.
    • Whenever Egypt changes its Government or uses an apostle to enhance its Religion, it may change all of its religious beliefs as well.
    • Previous beliefs held return to the pot, and can be selected by other Civilization towards their Religion, or Egypt again if no other Civilization selects them in the interim.
     
  19. moysturfurmer

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    Haha yea your Akhenaten was the first thing I thought of when I saw the Arabia video this morning. Really like all or other ideas btw. Although the Ronin UU for Tokugawa seems like it could be a lil redundant/niche, tbh.
     
  20. omniplex

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    Some alternate leader ideas
    William I (England)
    ULA: Domesday Book - William gets +1 gold from Farms, Pastures and Neighborhoods, and an additional +1 in conquered cities. Additionally, his melee units take no penalty attacking from sea to land.
    Agenda: Tapestry - William gets along with civilizations who have less gold income than him, and dislikes civilizations who pillage improvements and districts. He's not going to get along with Hardrada.

    Alexander (Greece)
    ULA: Brilliant Strategist - Units within range of a great general ignore enemy ZOC, and get double flanking bonus, which also applies to cities. (that is, assuming it's +15% normally, +30% against units and +15% against cities)
    UU: Hetaroi: Alexander has access to his companion cavalry, which are stronger than regular horsemen, and earn double GG points
    Agenda: Hellenism - Alexander holds long grudges, hating civs that have attacked him in the past. He highly regards Civs with a high cultural or scientific output, and is less likely to bully them if they are weak.

    Adolf Hitler (Germany)
    ULA: Blitzkrieg - Heavy Cavalry and tanks can attack multiple times per turn with enough movement
    Agenda: Lebensraum - Hates anyone who borders him, Like civs who share his government and are far away.
    (Obviously too, you know, evil for the main game, but an idea for a mod or WWII scenarios. I'd give some ideas for other WWII era leaders, but I'll need to come up with ideas for them first)
     

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