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America and Democracy

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Rhye's and Fall of Civilization' started by AnotherPacifist, Dec 1, 2007.

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Should America start with Democracy

  1. Yes, since democracy is the hallmark of the American Dream

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  2. No, we all like police states and theocracies

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  1. Ryry

    Ryry Chieftain

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    Historically America started as a democracy.... though not as what we would consider a fair democracy today. Basically, white men with land could vote. But I think that still makes a strong arguement for starting with democracy as it would be historical IMHO.

    As for gameplay, I think it would be OK for that too. The Statue of Liberty was completed in 1880 something if I remember. So you would be able to complete it early compared to history, BUT as someone already said it would help make it possible to get to the pentagon.

    I am playing America now, and I got the Statue built (with the help of an Engineer), but it looks like I will miss the Pentagon. I get bogged down in war with England/France/Spain to clear out their colonies, and the Euros get way ahead in tech. Meanwhile I am whipping out units cause I got French infantry to deal with with Riflemen and Cannons. Oh, and now the Spanish have destroyers. Meaning banks/markets/libraries etc.... all take a back seat. Result: bad economy and bad research.

    Anyway....

    Ryry
     
  2. onedreamer

    onedreamer Dragon

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    just wanted to remind everyone that a democracy and a democratic republic are quite different.
     
  3. kairob

    kairob Biohazard

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    I agree with onedreamer, and a "democracy" isn't necessarily the same as "universal suffrage" i.e. all races and both genders.
     
  4. Depravo

    Depravo Siring Bastards

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    Exactly. Case in point would be Athens. Close to a 'perfect democracy' as long as you were a male citizen. Rome on the other hand was an oligarchic republic with some democratic elements.
     
  5. sdLeo

    sdLeo Cosmopolitan

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    That you're a communist? That Iran must be bombed? That you should stop writing here and go Christmas shopping (aren't you done shopping yet? Bad American)

    Come on, the Republicans are right-wing. The Democrats are right of center. There's no centre or left in US politics.
     
  6. Depravo

    Depravo Siring Bastards

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    Might as well say there's no mainstream right (or libertarian for that matter) force in European politics. Most 'right' parties here support the welfare state frx.
     
  7. onedreamer

    onedreamer Dragon

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    exactly. America didn't have universal suffrage at its beginning (ie: democracy tech ingame). It had a constitution with civil rights etc. This means Constitution tech ingame terms.
     
  8. sdLeo

    sdLeo Cosmopolitan

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    I wouldn't disagree with that :lol:
     

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