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America in Decline: Why Germans Think We're Insane
By Democrats Ramshield, AlterNet
Posted on December 26, 2010, Printed on December 27, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/149324/

As an American expat living in the European Union, I’ve started to see America from a different perspective.

The European Union has a larger economy and more people than America does. Though it spends less -- right around 9 percent of GNP on medical, whereas we in the U.S. spend close to between 15 to 16 percent of GNP on medical -- the EU pretty much insures 100 percent of its population.

The U.S. has 59 million people medically uninsured; 132 million without dental insurance; 60 million without paid sick leave; 40 million on food stamps. Everybody in the European Union has cradle-to-grave access to universal medical and a dental plan by law. The law also requires paid sick leave; paid annual leave; paid maternity leave. When you realize all of that, it becomes easy to understand why many Europeans think America has gone insane.

Der Spiegel has run an interesting feature called "A Superpower in Decline," which attempts to explain to a German audience such odd phenomena as the rise of the Tea Party, without the hedging or attempts at "balance" found in mainstream U.S. media. On the Tea Parties:

Full of Hatred: "The Tea Party, that group of white, older voters who claim that they want their country back, is angry. Fox News host Glenn Beck, a recovering alcoholic who likens Obama to Adolf Hitler, is angry. Beck doesn't quite know what he wants to be -- maybe a politician, maybe president, maybe a preacher -- and he doesn't know what he wants to do, either, or least he hasn't come up with any specific ideas or plans. But he is full of hatred."

The piece continues with the sobering assessment that America’s actual unemployment rate isn’t really 10 percent, but close to 20 percent when we factor in the number of people who have stopped looking for work.

Some social scientists think that making sure large-scale crime or fascism never takes root in Europe again requires a taxpayer investment in a strong social safety net. Can we learn from Europe? Isn't it better to invest in a social safety net than in a large criminal justice system? (In America over 2 million people are incarcerated.)

Jobless Benefits That Never Run Out

Unlike here, in Germany jobless benefits never run out. Not only that -- as part of their social safety net, all job seekers continue to be medically insured, as are their families.

In the German jobless benefit system, when "jobless benefit 1" runs out, "jobless benefit 2," also known as HartzIV, kicks in. That one never gets cut off. The jobless also have contributions made for their pensions. They receive other types of insurance coverage from the state. As you can imagine, the estimated 2 million unemployed Americans who almost had no benefits this Christmas seems a particular horror show to Europeans, made worse by the fact that the U.S. government does not provide any medical insurance to American unemployment recipients. Europeans routinely recoil at that in disbelief and disgust.

In another piece the Spiegel magazine steps away from statistics and tells the story of Pam Brown, who personifies what is coming to be known as the Nouveau American poor. Pam Brown was a former executive assistant on Wall Street, and her shocking decline has become part of the American story:

American society is breaking apart. Millions of people have lost their jobs and fallen into poverty. Among them, for the first time, are many middle-class families. Meet Pam Brown from New York, whose life changed overnight. The crisis caught her unprepared. "It was horrible," Pam Brown remembers. "Overnight I found myself on the wrong side of the fence. It never occurred to me that something like this could happen to me. I got very depressed." Brown sits in a cheap diner on West 14th Street in Manhattan, stirring her $1.35 coffee. That's all she orders -- it's too late for breakfast and too early for lunch. She also needs to save money. Until early 2009, Brown worked as an executive assistant on Wall Street, earning more than $80,000 a year, living in a six-bedroom house with her three sons. Today, she's long-term unemployed and has to make do with a tiny one-bedroom in the Bronx.

It's important to note that no country in the European Union uses food stamps in order to humiliate its disadvantaged citizens in the grocery checkout line. Even worse is the fact that even the humbling food stamp allotment may not provide enough food for America’s jobless families. So it is on a reoccurring basis that some of these families report eating out of garbage cans to the European media.

For Pam Brown, last winter was the worst. One day she ran out of food completely and had to go through trash cans. She fell into a deep depression ... For many, like Brown, the downfall is a Kafkaesque odyssey, a humiliation hard to comprehend. Help is not in sight: their government and their society have abandoned them.

Pam Brown and her children were disturbingly, indeed incomprehensibly, allowed to fall straight to the bottom. The richest country in the world becomes morally bankrupt when someone like Pam Brown and her children have to pick through trash to eat, abandoned with a callous disregard by the American government. People like Brown have found themselves dispossessed due to the robber baron actions of the Wall Street elite.

Hunger in the Land of the Big Mac

A shocking headline from a Swiss newspaper reads (Berner Zeitung) “Hunger in the Land of the Big Mac.” Though the article is in German, the pictures are worth 1,000 words and need no translation. Given the fact that the Swiss virtually eliminated hunger, how do we as Americans think they will view these pictures, to which the American population has apparently been desensitized.



This appears to be a picture of two mothers collecting food boxes from the charity Feed the Children.

Perhaps the only way for us to remember what we really look like in America is to see ourselves through the eyes of others. While it is true that we can all be proud Americans, surely we don't have to be proud of the broken American social safety net. Surely we can do better than that. Can a European-style social safety net rescue the American working and middle classes from GOP and Tea Party warfare?

Link to the article

So if the rest of the world's view of the US is steadily declining, what's America to do?
 
Well, like all great empires, America has to fall at some time.

It happened to Persia, Macedonia, Carthage, Rome, China, Holy Rome, Mongolia, the Ottomans, Spain, France, Germany(twice), Britain, Russia(twice) and its bound to happen to us.
 
America needs to find a new technology or industry to dominate it in, and then sell products in that industry across the globe, more investment in R & D is key. Also, it needs to prevent its middle class from shrinking (not because of tax-increases) but because of social safety nets geared to protecting them. Finally, it needs to tone down the divisive nature of its political system.

However, the United States will endure a relative decline due to the "Rise of the Rest". I do not see an absolute decline in the United States role in the world but a relative one.

I'm keen to hear what Americans say....
 
Well, like all great empires, America has to fall at some time.

America isn't an empire.

Buuuuuuuuuut that's a topic for a totally different thread (that I don't feel like opening again), so I'm going to leave it at that.
 
It's important to note that no country in the European Union uses food stamps in order to humiliate its disadvantaged citizens in the grocery checkout line
It's important to note that food stamps are not actually stamps. They work like a debit card.
 
Why should I give two rat turds what Europeans think of my country?

Arent you even ashamed that children need to pick through garbage bins to eat?
 
Arent you even ashamed that children need to pick through garbage bins to eat?

It's sad and is as much of a problem in the rest of the world as it is in America. Worse in places, but not as bad in some. So it can't be a problem caused by American ideals, culture, politics or vices... correction, it is a problem caused by that, but it is not uniquely American. Propaganda. Bias. Gobbledygook. I don't even know what I'm talking about...
 
Arent you even ashamed that children need to pick through garbage bins to eat?

It happens incredibly rarely. Our government provides food for all those who cannot afford it.

America needs to find a new technology or industry to dominate it in, and then sell products in that industry across the globe, more investment in R & D is key.

We have an incredibly large presence in nearly every single industry and technology on the planet; we spend more on R&D than any other country...
 
Correction: we provide food stamps. :p
 
No. Why should I be?

Why shouldnt you be? Kids shouldnt have to worry about how to eat. They should be playin' and growing up.
 
So if the rest of the world's view of the US is steadily declining, what's America to do?
Why assume America is in decline? The stuff mentioned in the article you quoted has remained true for many years now. America has always been behind Europe in a number of ways.

What's getting left out is the ways in which the United States is ahead. Such as the fact that the British pay three times as much for a liter of petrol. I'll bet that if you compare other mundane goods, you'll find that the British actually get a lot less for their money. Add in the fact that most European citizens only get to keep about 30%-40% of their paycheck (the rest being eaten up by taxes) and it becomes a lot less clear who's "ahead" in the eternal race for a higher living standard.
 
Add in the fact that most European citizens only get to keep about 30%-40% of their paycheck (the rest being eaten up by taxes) and it becomes a lot less clear who's "ahead" in the eternal race for a higher living standard.

For people who actually have money and aren't struggling to jus' eat or pay medical bills or find a job.
 
Exactly. On the Eastern side of the Atlantic, it's easier to pay the medical bills and find a job--but you have less money for everything else. You live in a crappier house and you pay twice as much for half as much stuff.

The simple fact that I'm on the WEST side of the Atlantic should clue you in that I don't like the European system. So, here's a great idea: don't go telling me how to do my business, and I won't go telling you how to do yours (but then, I'm already keeping my nose out of your business). Then let's let everybody move back and forth to wherever they're happiest.
 
Y'know, Id rather have less luxuries than have to die because of inaquedate healthcare.

And youre probably on the west side 'cos you were born there. Not everyone has the resources to just pack up and move.
 
Healthcare in Canada may be free but it's far from "adequate". When my cousin found a lump in her breast, she had to lie about her condition or else it would have taken a couple months just to be seen by a specialist. Yes, she eventually was diagnosed with breast cancer. There's a similar story of an uncle that ended up having ALS.

I have a couple dozen relatives up there and they all piss and moan about the healthcare system.
 
And American is much better? People put off little things 'cos they cant afford to see a doctor. It gets much more serious. They end up going to the Emergency Room an' thats a waste of money 'cos they cant pay the bill. And it could've been avoided by a simple doctors visit. Some kid (on welfare, nonetheless) died of a serious infection that could've been avoided by a dentist visit.
Linky: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/02/AR2007030200827.html

Ill jus' say that if I lived in the U.S. Id probably be dead this moment.
 
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