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An *ACTUAL* election for the Seven Wonders of the World...

Discussion in 'World History' started by shirleyrocks, Nov 20, 2001.

  1. shirleyrocks

    shirleyrocks Chieftain

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    Here's your chance to vote along with other citizens of Earth for the 'New 7 Wonders of the World' ('new' as opposed to 'modern').

    "Much time has passed since the 7 Wonders of the World were last selected. Now on the threshold of the third millennium, our view of the world is characterised by a global consciousness. It is, therefore, an appropriate time to determine the new seven symbols of the most important human accomplishments of the last 2000 years. During the initial phase of the project we have received well over 5.5 million votes from over 200 countries. This global acceptance and the great success expressed in the number of votes received has been overwhelming and has strengthened our belief that we are on the verge of bringing about a meaningful dialogue between the citizens of the world."

    It all has a very 'civ' feel, naturally.

    http://www.new7wonders.com/
     
  2. Hamlet

    Hamlet Manic Depressive

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    Intresting, if pointless.
     
  3. Kahran Ramsus

    Kahran Ramsus Chieftain

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    Interesting. Not all my choices were even on the list. Might as well post them here.

    In no particular order:

    1) The Colosseum
    2) The Golden Gate Bridge
    3) Angkor Wat
    4) The Rideau Canal
    5) The Great Wall of China
    6) The Leaning Tower of Pisa
    7) Hoover Dam
     
  4. goododa

    goododa Chieftain

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    1. The Hanging Garden In Babylon
    2. The Great Wall in China
    3. The Pyramid in Giza
    4. The Colossus in Rhodes
    5. Sistine Chapel in Rome
    6. The Statue of Liberty in New York
    7. Magellan's Expedition
     
  5. Le Petit Prince

    Le Petit Prince Communist Comrade

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    pyramid
    great wall
    great library
    empire state building
    Louvres
    babel tower
    yucatan pyramid
     
  6. Kahran Ramsus

    Kahran Ramsus Chieftain

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    To the last two posters:

    The wonder has to still be standing. That was the purpose of this. Plus, you cannot choose the Pyramids as they were part of the original seven.
     
  7. JoeM

    JoeM Imperator

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    Tower Bridge
    Nelsons Column
    Leicester Square
    Big Ben
    Houses of Parliament
    London Eye
    Millenium Dome

    (!)

    Oh and fluffy dice, I've always wondered about those...:D

    Sorry for taking the mick, but does this site actually carry any weight?
     
  8. spycatcher34

    spycatcher34 Chieftain

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    "Does this site actually carry weight?"

    Ofcourse it does!:rolleyes:

    You must really like london eh? Dont worry it happens to the best of us.

    Anyways im saying we get this on track add last suggestions, narrow list and scrath out no goes.

    (My leadership role persona;))
     
  9. Hamlet

    Hamlet Manic Depressive

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    Such imagination!
     
  10. spycatcher34

    spycatcher34 Chieftain

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    :lol: hows about the millenium bridge?:lol:
     
  11. knowltok

    knowltok Guest

    I'm no expert on it, but doesn't the Chunnel spring to anyone's mind?

    Pyramids are a must as is the Great Wall

    Panama Canal is pretty important too.

    Transiberian Railway is pretty impressive too.
     
  12. Julien

    Julien Lord

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    I like this kind of votes !:goodjob: :crazyeyes

    So here are my choices :

    Ancient World (until 500AD) :

    1) Great Pyramids in Giza
    2) Tower of Babel in Babylone (if it isn't a legend)
    3) Hanging Gardens in Babylone (if they ever existed as well)
    4) Acropolis in Athens
    5) Labyrith and Palace of Knossos
    6) Collosus in Rhodes
    7) Colloseum in Rome

    also worth including : Temple of Zeus in Olympia, Pharos at Alexandria, Temple of Artemis in Ephesus, Mausoleum in Halicarnasus, Palatina in Rome (and all the city), the Great Libraries (Thebes, Nineveh, Alexandria), Temple in Jerusalem,...

    Medieval World (500-1400AD)

    1) Great Mosques (Cordoba, Istanbul, etc.)
    2) Aztec and Mayan temples
    3) Great Cathedrals (any, as they are numerous : Chartres, Rheims, Bourges, Paris, Cologne, etc.)
    4) Great medieval castles (Carcassone, Tower of London, many in Germany...)
    5) Buddhist sculpures, such as the Daibutsu (Great Bronze Buddha) in Kamakura (Japan) or Borrobudur (Java, Indonesia)
    6) City of Angkor (Cambodia)
    7) Hindu temples in India, such as in Madurai (Tamil Nadu), Thiruvalampaturam (TN), Chariot Temple of Konark (Orissa)...

    Renaissance and Modern Times (about 1400-1750)

    1) Italian Cities : Rome (including Vaticano), Venice, Florence, Pisa, Verona, Milano...
    2) Great Wall of China
    3) Taj Mahal and Red Fort in Agra, India
    4) Great Mosques in Medina and Mecca
    5) Kremlin in Moscow
    6) Amsterdam
    7) Great French chateaux and palaces (Chambord, Versailles, Louvres...)

    And also : Praha, Sevilla, Brugge, ...

    Revolutions and Contemporary World (after 1750)

    1) New York City : Statue of Liberty, Empire State B., WTC (lost!)...
    2) White House in Washington
    3) Sagrada Familia in Barcelona
    4) Royal Palace, Wat Prah Kaew and others temples in Bangkok
    5) modern Hong Kong
    6) Hollywood
    7) Disneyland (any)

    And : Neuschwanstein Castle (Bavaria, Germany), Sintra Castle (Portugal), Warwick Castle (UK), St Petersburg, Mount Rushmore, Las Vegas...

    Out of Time

    1) Jerusalem
    2) Varanasi, India
    3) Paris (Louvre, Eiffel Tower, Invalides, Notre-Dame, Versailes, Champs Elysees...)
    4) Peking/Beijing (Forbidden city...)
    5) London (Parliament, Big Ben, British Museum, City and Tower and London, Piccadilly, Shakespear Theater...)
    6) Salamanca, Spain
    7) Oxford

    Any other ideas ?
     
  13. willemvanoranje

    willemvanoranje Curitibano

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    Ancient World:

    Pyramids of Giza
    Colossus of Rhodos
    Great Wall of China
    Hanging Gardens of Babylon
    Lighthouse of Pharos
    Zeus Statue
    Minos' Palace (= labyrinth!)


    Medieval:

    Krak de Chevaliers
    Chichen Iza
    Cathedral of Chartres
    Sistine Chappel in Rome
    Alhambra in Granada
    Machu Pichu
    Dome of the Rock


    Late medieval - New Time - Modern Time

    Tâdj-Mahal
    Himedji Castle
    Versailles
    Pavilion of Brighton
    Houses of Parliament in Brighton
    Neuschwanstein
    Statue of Liberty
    Sagrada Familia
    Empire State Building
    Amsterdam (1. (still) great trade city, especially 1575-1750 2. because I live there 3. because Julien had it as well :d)
     
  14. redtom

    redtom Proudhonist

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    In real life (ie. outside in the sun)

    1. Great Wall - Absolutely massive, superb engineering and planning.
    2. Hanging Gardens of Babylon
    3. Channel Tunnel - Sheer engineering and workmanship.
    4. The Great Library
    5. The Pyramids
    6. The Statue of Zeus
    7. The entire Constantinople defense complex - 2 layers of massive walls, its own water supply, sea defenses etc.

    P.S. I know Constantinople fell to the Ottoman Turks but it was surrendered through error - they saw one Ottoman Turk on the inside of the walls, thinking there was more, they surrendered

    PSS. Before anyone starts attacking the Crusaders for what they did to the Turks/Arabs, just remember what they did to the Christians within their empire
     
  15. vega

    vega Chieftain

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    sorry, but the white house cant be a wonder.....its a copy of a smaller building in germany, woerlitzer park

    my suggestion for a modern wonder: space station MIR
     
  16. Julien

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    I am so amazed to see how many people choose the hanging gardens or the great library as wonders. Sorry to say that, but you really lack imagination and can't even think of other wonders that actually exist throughout the world. I often see the Pyramids as well. Allright, they are great, but why do you keep citing wonders that were the 7 original ones or mainly others that were in Civ games (Great Wall, St Peter of Rome, etc).

    What's more nobody knows how were the Hanging Gardens as no trace has been left, and archeologists/historians are not even sure they actually existed. It was not very clever of you to claim it in YOUR actual 7 wonders. The OP, shirleyrocks, also ask to think of modern wonders or some still standing today.

    No need to say again the 7 original wonders, ie : Temple of Zeus in Olympia, Pharos at Alexandria, Temple of Artemis in Ephesus, Mausoleum in Halicarnasus, the Colossus of Rhodes, the Pyramids of Giza and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon. Of all 7, only the pyramids are left standing anyway.

    Landmarks from around the world can probably be considered as wonders of the world. I would add to my previous list these ones :

    - The 2000 year-old Rice Terrace in Banaue, Philippines.
    - Mosques and city walls of Timbuktu, Mali
    - The Kinkaku-ji temple in Kyoto
    - The Palace of the Winds in Jaipur (India)
    - The temples and palaces of the valley of Khatmandu (Nepal)
    ...

    And this is wthout considering Natural Wonders.

    I think the World Heritage list of the UNESCO is a kind of new Wonders of the World list. ;)

    Most of the wonders I have cited in this thread (other post) are placed where I have actually been (except in the US, Russia, China). I'd like to listen to which wonders you have actually seen by yourself (like the Pyramids, Acropolis, Colloseum, St Peter, etc.). This would be more intersting, as otherwise you just speak in the air, without that it means anything outside your self-imagination (like the Hanging Gardens that nobody has ever seen).

    Enjoy !
     
  17. Nishdog

    Nishdog Isolationist Bastard

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    1. The Internet
    2. McDonald's
    3. BEER (granted, this is hardly new, but it deserves mentioning) :beer:
    4. Area 51
    5. Hollywood
    6. Graceland
    7. Charisma Carpenter :love:
     
  18. JoeM

    JoeM Imperator

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    I completely agree with Nishdog, and Good Grief! How come fermentation isn't on the Tech Tree?? Allows a Civ to see the Wine terrain, and the building of the Pub city improvement.

    Please, oh Please someone do a Mod Pack for this or I'll have to find out how to do it myself!

    :D
     
  19. Sodak

    Sodak Paha Sapa Papa

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    It's clear why the Great Wall and the Pyramids continuously come up on such lists - They are absolutely amazing engineering undertakings, accomplished by civs with a knowledge not even remotely as advanced as ours. And to top it off (I've not seen the GW in person :(), the pyramids are actually amazing even by modern engineering standards. The limestone facing is mostly gone, but even the stone base is unbelievably straight. I'd bet even truer an edge than the sides of your favorite modern building. It's really mind-boggling how well constructed they are, even 5500+ years later. Ancient reports indicate that the lost facing was glass smooth, something I don't doubt for a moment. Not only the construction, but the alignment of everything on the Giza complex is highly structured and mathematical. Considering the age and technology of the time, I think they blow away most modern "wonders." That's why they still make the list!

    Others have posted ideas I like, such as the Alhambra, the Taj Mahal, and other fine buildings. However, the leaning tower of Pisa is a lovely mishap, not a wonder. The only wonder at Pisa is the unending river of tourists who pose in front of it, pretending to hold it upright, smiling for the picture as if they were the first to come up with the photo idea. :rolleyes:

    How about Mount Rushmore and the Crazy Horse monument? That's some impressive stone work, friends.

    Julien, isn't the temple of Artemis still partially intact?
     
  20. knowltok

    knowltok Guest

    Crazy horse is damn impressive. Dwarfs Rushmore. Been a while since I've been there. What is the most current estimate of when it will be done?
     

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