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An Interesting Game of Betrayal

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Stories & Tales' started by Yoshiegg737, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. Yoshiegg737

    Yoshiegg737 Jungo Jungo

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    No screenshots here. Just a quick recap of a very interesting game that I had recently finished on Revolution DCM (A Mod that adds popular mods like revolutions, BUG, Better BtS AI, and non-game changing stuff + a few extra leaders and civ's that I threw in). What is so interesting about this game?...Well...

    Ok, uneventful beginning. I was Pericles of Greece (As always) and was playing on an Earth2 map where I changed it so everyone starts where they are supposed to start (22 Civ's, no new world civ's). So anyway, I'm Pericles with Saddam Hussein to the east, Cyrus east of him, and Caesar to my west. Cleopatra is to the south, but needs a galley to reach me (Africa was split off a little). Saladin was south of me as well.

    Anyway...it was just a basic settler spam fest to claim land, religions we're founded...and the most important religion for me was Confucianism. Founded by Cyrus and spread to me. I also had one lone city to the north, squishing Mao's cities between my main empire and the lone city (Mao somehow managed to expand north of Saddam and Cyrus). To the west of the lone city was Catherine, and to the east was Mandukhai Khatun (Some female leader of Mongolia, or something)

    This story is going somewhere, don't worry :D. About mid-game, everyone was not allowed to spread religions normally (The non-state rule thingy). I used the tactic of gifting missionaries to civ's, so they spread it themselves. Because of my cheap tactic, Confucianism became the worlds top religion, leaving Izzy and Mansa Musa in Buddhism, and Saladin, Ghandi, and Zara in Hinduism.

    Hmm...maybe I included too many unimportant details...oh well. So soon, Mao Zedong suddenly began peace vassaling everyone who was friendly with me (Basically all the Confucianism people). Not thinking too much of this, me and my best buddy Mandukhai was declaring on everyone the Confucianism group didn't like (Saddam was destroyed because he decided to attack me. So me and Mandukhai double teamed him). By now, you could guess that Mandukhai was the friendliest towards me (Checked the glance page) and Mao had somehow vassaled every single ally that I had. So basically, everyone who was friendly with me slowly vassaled to Mao. In the end, the only people who didn't vassal to Mao was Mandukhai, Catherine, and Caesar who all were friendly towards me and all had borders attached to mine

    I soon colonized Canada (I always colonize Canada first) and watched as my friends did the same. Then, one day, everyone was at peace. No war's were going on (Except for the Shaka vs. Zara war that had been going on since day 1). Peaceful expansion was happening in America. Everyone was happy and me and Mandukhai had just signed peace treaties with Saladin and Ghandi. But suddenly, out of the blue, for no reason what-so-ever, Mao declares war on me. Mao was friendly, all his vassal's were friendly, and yet Mao attacked me at friendly (And no, Catherine was not vassaled to him). No one payed him to attack me since the BUG mod would tell you if someone did.

    3 Things Immediatly popped into my mind:
    1. How is an AI, besides Catherine, declaring war on me at Friendly? By himself?
    2. Cyrus is to the east of my borders, then Mao. And Cyrus is vassaled to Mao. And my entire army is nowhere near this border. Uh oh.
    3. Mao Zedong is a dirty little turd

    Spoiler :
    (I find yet another use for Copaczin's picture from his story)
    My face when Mao declared war on me


    Have you ever seen someone at war with you with a "Friendly" tag on them? It looked disturbing when I clicked Mao after he declared war on me and it said "Friendly" at the top. Mao was saying, "Stop pestering me!" With this very happy grin on his face. Creepy.

    The complete side-swipe took me off guard and Mao took over 3 cities while I was getting my army up. Not including my Canadian city, I was now down to 6 cities. Luckily, my army managed to hold off the attacking force, but not before Mao took my capital, Athens. Now I had 2 super culture cities, a seaside city with no production, the isolated city beside Catherine and Mandukhai and an Arabian city that was still revolting. I thought to call up my best buddy, Mandukhai, and ask her to attack Mao. However, she replied, "We're afraid of their military might." Yeah, thanks a lot you silly girl.

    Oh, but Mandukhai had her own plans. Just when I thought that I can make it to the peace treaty with Mao before I lose more cities, Mandukhai declares war on me. At friendly. No, not friendly, but super friendly. I'm talking +25 relations here. On her own, she declares war on me. This was an even bigger side-swipe than the Mao attack, and I wasn't even ready for this one.

    One thing popped into my mind

    1. Wow, shes the definition of a...wait...I can't swear on CFC

    I had extra units to keep near Catherine and Saladin in case they declared on me too, but Mandukhai? Completely empty and with absolutely no defense. Mandukhai completely used horses and captured my Arabian city and my city in Russia. I was down to 3 cities now and my score showed that. Then, Mao decides to attack Saladin while still at war with me. The troubling thing was that Mao somehow managed to simultaneously take an Arabian and Indian (Ghandi was Saladin's vassal) city while continuing to destroy my garrisons.

    Eventually, I made it to the peace treaty with Mao and Mandukhai with my 3 surviving cities. Mao and Mandukhai go back to friendly, and Mandukhai goes back to happily asking me to join her war against Saladin (She declared too) like nothing had happened at all (Since before the backstabbing, she would always join my wars for free and I joined her when she asked). After I denied her requests a few times, she gave me a free tech, then later she liberated my isolated city in Russia. Could she be trying to have me forgive her? Soon, she asked again for me to attack Saladin and I finally agreed.

    It seems that everything had gone back to normal. I think I finally forgave her and focused on attacking Saladin as I managed to take one of his cities.

    Bad mistake.

    Mandukhai suddenly declares war on me alone and takes my isolated city. She also seemed to have been hiding units in Chinese cities as she moved her Cavalry fast and captured both my cultural cities. Then, I got the pop-up saying, "The evil Mongolian has convinced the treacherous Chinese to declare war on us!"

    Treacherous indeed. And Mao and all his vassal's we're friendly towards me. A repeat episode that I didn't see coming. Again.

    Ironically, Cyrus took my first Arabian city, then Maria (Remember her from Destruction of History?) took my second Arabian city. Mao finally came in and took my last city, the seaside city with no production, leaving me with my one city in Canada. With only one city and two AI's that love to back stab me, I was ready to quit this game. The peace treaties were up and I signed them. I thought to play a few more turns when I saw the most pleasing message of the whole game:

    "China has declared war on Mongolia!"

    Three things popped into my mind:
    1. Weren't they both friendly with each other?
    2. She so deserved a slap in the face
    3. Life is good :cool:

    The Moral of the Story
    The AI is actually smarter than human beings. The "Friendly" mean's nothing.

    Also:
    Mandukhai is a evil little wrench and Mao is a crazy warmongering back stabber. I will make sure to destroy them in my future games.

    :D That's all. Just don't forget to remember the moral of the story. It could save your liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife!!!!!!!!!!! *Play's haunting music then disappears into the shadow's*
     
  2. Alexius08

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  3. Yoshiegg737

    Yoshiegg737 Jungo Jungo

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    Nope, random personalities was off
     
  4. Civ'ed

    Civ'ed I ain't gotta explain a thing

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    O, Yoshi! How ye spend yer time on random stuff! Update instead!
     
  5. Copaczin

    Copaczin Philosophical, Creative

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    Aw shucks, I'm referenced :c5happy:

    On a more relevant note, I think the ai's recognize you as the human player and work together against you depending on difficulty, regardless of your diplomatic stance towards them. That, or some whack stuff happened in the "actual" relations section that works behind the scenes.

    I don't know. Funny story though. :thumbsup:
     
  6. Yoshiegg737

    Yoshiegg737 Jungo Jungo

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    The "actual" relations section :mischief:

    On a more technical note, I checked the code and stuff and the leaders we're not supposed to declare on me alone. I think it was set to 100% chance they will not declare on you.

    I must have messed something up somewhere :D
     
  7. inohotep

    inohotep Slender Time!

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    i too have a story of backstabbing and kinda want to tell it (but i don't want to take over someone else's thread) so anyone want to hear it?
     
  8. Yoshiegg737

    Yoshiegg737 Jungo Jungo

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    Sure, why not :D

    You can post here if you want, my stories ended already
     
  9. inohotep

    inohotep Slender Time!

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    alright here it is
    inspired by copaczin's diety story i played on diety myself using the Glory and Greatness mod and played as korea (they have a special ability of 2+:science:per speacialists) (terra map)
    anyway, cathrine was directly north of me and ragnar was north-east and the rest was just ocean. They caught me by surprise by how fast the expanded, i ended up with a total of 4 tundra, coastal, cities (every single city had dear in it) Cathrine and ragnar were both pleased, and so was everyone else, so pleased that i got 2 free techs outta nowhere
    so of course i try and aim for diplo (but then again it was only like 500ad) or maybe i can aim for a clolonial empire (so i then beelined for astronomy) and outta nowhere i get invaded by sulieman, who was in the other side of the continent! then cathrine declares war and she was still pleased! man, i only had archers and the came in with stacks of knights to spare
    i lost my capital and then lost my last city to sulieman, last thing i remember? Cathrine's smile
     

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