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Why does Canada has to be more American then Americans?

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...rd-of-canada-gives-thumbs-up-to-ipod-tax.html

Copyright Board of Canada gives thumbs-up to "iPod tax"

By Jacqui Cheng | Published: July 20, 2007 - 02:38PM CT

Canadians who purchase digital music players and removable memory cards should have to pay an extra tax, according to the Copyright Board of Canada. The decision (PDF) stated that the proposed levy, originally suggested by the Canadian Private Copyright Collective (CPCC), followed the intent of the country's Copyright Act and Parliament and therefore such a tariff could be enacted.
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The decision comes after a series of back-and-forth arguments between the CPCC, the Canadian Storage Media Alliance (CSMA), and the Retail Council of Canada (RCC). In February of this year, the CPCC asked the Copyright Board to increase the levy on recordable CDs and to add removable media, such as SD cards, to the list. Also part of that request were iPods and other digital music players. "We'd all like lots of things to be free. But those who create the music deserve to be compensated. When you go and buy an iPod, the retailer gets paid. So you can't say that the people who make the music should get a free ride," CPCC board of directors member David Basskin argued at the time.

The proposal sparked a flurry of motions from the CSMA and RCC arguing against the proposal, saying that Canada's Federal Court had already ruled that such a levy fell outside of the Copyright Act. The groups also said that the Copyright Board did not have jurisdiction to decide on the case either way, but those calls fell on deaf ears and the Copyright Board went ahead with the hearings on the levy in June.

The Copyright Board's decision now not only gives the go-ahead to the "iPod tax," it also makes some worrying statements regarding potential levies on other everyday electronics. As the University of Ottawa's research chair of Internet and e-commerce Law, Michael Geist, observed on his blog, the Copyright Board acknowledged a point brought up by the CSMA that phones and computers could also become leviable because they also happen to have the ability, among other things, to store audio files. "We see no inherent problem with this scenario," reads the Copyright Board's decision. "A thing that is ordinarily used by individual consumers to make private copies should not be excluded from the private copying regime for the sole reason that it has other uses. Indeed, all media that are currently subject to the levy can be used for purposes other than private copying."

If such a levy were to go into law, Canadians who wish to buy iPods, Zunes, and other digital music players will have to pay an extra fee on top of the price of the device simply for having the option of using it as an audio player. But the ruling has far-reaching implications. Essentially, the board is claiming that anything with the capacity to store digital data has the potential to hold music and can be taxed accordingly. Plus, there's the underlying assumption that users are stealing the music they're listening to, which is the purpose of the levy in the first place if what Basskin says is true. Whether the levy will actually be implemented remains to be seen, but worried Canadians should plan their media player purchases soon if they want to avoid paying extra.
 
Adding extra taxes is more of a British thing then an American thing. And its just stupid to tax removable storage to give to the music industry ( not the artists) when those removable cards can and are used for other things.
 
This just reminded me that there was a very similar law about to pass in France and I don't remember if it did.

But yeah, gotta love when the state is going to tax you because it assumes you will steal :b
 
This is so unfair. It will only force consumers to steal their ipods to avoid the tax, much as the rest of the music industry has forced consumers to steal the music itself.
 
This just reminded me that there was a very similar law about to pass in France and I don't remember if it did.

But yeah, gotta love when the state is going to tax you because it assumes you will steal :b

something similar just passed here: Judges confirm tax on digital music players
bastards :gripe:

all it will do is send more back into the arms of piracy, since they argue that they've already paid for it anyway....
 
Exactly! You paid the fine, might as well do the crime...

Score one for the bad guys!

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Sweet, more American retailers will make money so they can avoid the tax.
 
The Copyright Board's decision now not only gives the go-ahead to the "iPod tax," it also makes some worrying statements regarding potential levies on other everyday electronics. As the University of Ottawa's research chair of Internet and e-commerce Law, Michael Geist, observed on his blog, the Copyright Board acknowledged a point brought up by the CSMA that phones and computers could also become leviable because they also happen to have the ability, among other things, to store audio files. "We see no inherent problem with this scenario," reads the Copyright Board's decision. "A thing that is ordinarily used by individual consumers to make private copies should not be excluded from the private copying regime for the sole reason that it has other uses. Indeed, all media that are currently subject to the levy can be used for purposes other than private copying."

If such a levy were to go into law, Canadians who wish to buy iPods, Zunes, and other digital music players will have to pay an extra fee on top of the price of the device simply for having the option of using it as an audio player. But the ruling has far-reaching implications. Essentially, the board is claiming that anything with the capacity to store digital data has the potential to hold music and can be taxed accordingly. Plus, there's the underlying assumption that users are stealing the music they're listening to, which is the purpose of the levy in the first place if what Basskin says is true. Whether the levy will actually be implemented remains to be seen, but worried Canadians should plan their media player purchases soon if they want to avoid paying extra.
So let me get this straight...AKA how to understand these crazy greedy idiots.

Based into that logic if I would buy a computer I would also have to pay to each and every software company since my computer has chance to store and capability to use copyrighted material they have produced. So even if I use Linux I still have to pay for Microsoft for simple CHANCE of their product existing in my computer. This scenario is even more plausible since computer is first and foremost designed for this kind of products rather than being audio player.

Only thing I know for sure is these kind of things make sure that I will be careful to buy even less music than before.
 
We have taxes on CD-Rs, blank tapes, etc... because file sharing is legal. It is way to give money back to the artists who stand to lose money from these devices and medias being sold.
 
p.s.
I totally do not want these new levies to be implemented.
 
Yeah, it's pretty unfair to everyone who doesn't steal music.

Still, I haven't come up with a better idea yet...
 
Funny how everyone is suddenly united against a tax that will probably directly impact them.
 
Funny how everyone is suddenly united against a tax that will probably directly impact them.

it's a tax that punishes everyone for the actions of a few and it helps no one's situation that really needs it.

seems in line with a lot of views here.
 
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