Angry Dan Quayle?

[TheBladeRoden]

I just wanted him in there long enough to get a couple of coservatives on the supreme court, but then the interesting stuff had to happen in the meantime...

 

[Anima Croatorum]

Dan Quayle,
Born in the USA
Doesnt know sitcom
From reality.

 

[loveandpolitics]

I'm going to copy quotes from the above page, proving once and for all that he is on the bottom of the list only because he has so many stupid quotes to his name. So stop arguing, if I wanted politics I'd be watching the news and not playing CiV4. The game designers must have just thought it would be funny to put him there. If they really were biased they would have put Bush or Kerry at the bottom of the list depending on their slant.

[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system.

Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.

The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.

We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world.

We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur.

For NASA, space is still a high priority.

and of course my favorites

We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward.

The future will be better tomorrow.

I have made good judgements in the Past. I have made good judgements in the Future.

 

[Xenocrates]

Couldn't Dan Quayle sue if he comfortably beats Civ 4 on Deity level against 10 opponents on a huge map with space race victory enabled and a poor starting location?

Mr Quayle: We await your saves and screenshots!

I must say that from the quotes in the last post he sounds like a genius (by comparison with the current US regime......)

I also invite George Bush to post here too!

 

[jar2574]

I also invite George Bush to post here too!

On the internets?

I only have one thing to say, and that is the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized; this shall be the law of the land unless chosen otherwise by two-thirds majority in both House and Senate followed by ratification by three-fourths of the states -- not by a mere Executive Order.

If it sounds familiar, it should. This is our Constitution.

Well said, friend.

Here is a link with the rest of the Bill of Rights: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html

Have a quick look, they would become irrelevant if they can be ignored by simple executive order. As would the anti-torture legislation just passed by Congress, and any other legislation for that matter.

This is no small scandal. This is a big deal.

Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security will wind up with neither, and rightly so.

 

[antracer]

Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security will wind up with neither, and rightly so.

Only in America will we give up freedom to be free... ( The fact is, we're cows with wallets... )

As for Quayle, Anybody that can utter the things he did, wether nervous or jes' plain' dumb, deserves to be enshrined in the hallowed halls of civ "history". After all, we make or own history every game, and I for one am glad i don't have to get up in front of the whole country and try to explain what i'm doing, or how i want to spell potato this week, or that i find O2 very helpful when breathing....

I'm sure in the situation he was in, I'd have spent plenty of time chewing on my shoes too...

my 1/2 cent, after taxes...

 

[Andygal]

Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security will wind up with neither, and rightly so.

Damn straight.

This is scary stuff that's going on down there. I am increasily glad I'm Canadian, but also increasing worried that our politicians are tying us too closely to the mess Bush is creating.

 

[Kolyana]

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

~~ Hermann Georing.

 

[Kolyana]

When even one American - who has done nothing wrong - is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth - then all Americans are in peril.

Harry S. Truman

 

[jar2574]

~~ Hermann Georing.

I had never heard that quote. Very timely. Could you provide a source please? I want to save it to my hard drive.

The Truman one is good too.

 

[Kolyana]

I had never heard that quote. Very timely. Could you provide a source please? I want to save it to my hard drive.

The Truman one is good too.

I was reading the book "The last true story I'll ever tell" and it had this quote in there, which is the first time I'd come across it. Subsequently I did a small search and found this:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm

It describes the circumstances in detail.

I am no fan of Goering, of course, but I found the simplicity of his statement - and it's timeliness to today's events - to be particularly significant and interesting.

Never before have I been more aware of history repeating itself, governments manipulating their subjects (regardless of government type), and our own inability to learn from our mistakes and history.

 

[jar2574]

Never before have I been more aware of history repeating itself, governments manipulating their subjects (regardless of government type), and our own inability to learn from our mistakes and history.

It's interesting he said that during the trials.

Call me a cynic, but I think that history will always repeat itself. The masses will never bother to learn enough to stick up for themselves. And successful leaders will always be more likely to be driven by selfish personal aspirations than for the good of the masses.

 

[Kolyana]

It's interesting he said that during the trials.

Call me a cynic, but I think that history will always repeat itself. The masses will never bother to learn enough to stick up for themselves. And successful leaders will always be more likely to be driven by selfish personal aspirations than for the good of the masses.

Not a cynic at all ... I think you are completely correct. I think there you have described 2 human character types: Those with power, allowing power to corrupt and those who follow blindly, refusing to believe that their leaders would lie to them. One is too power hungry to care what history has taught us, for they are intent upon writing their own entry, and the others are too blind and ignorant.

There is a third, of course, those independent free thinkers to realize what is going on ... but typically they seem to lack the numbers and therefore the voice to really - ever - make a difference.

The foibles of mankind.

 

[thordk]

i think dan quayle is the right choice. at least i didn't even know this guy...

 

[Silver Marmot]

I think it's funnier that Al Gore represents the internet.

 

[King Flevance]

First off, I think Dan being at the bottom as said earlier in this post has mostly to due with tradition in civ games. He has been the bottom since Civ 1 kind of reflecting the times of when Civ 1 was released.

As for the actual 'rating' thing goes, Dan should not even be on this list as he was NOT a leader. He was a Vice President. That's like putting a state governor on the leader charts. He was a type of leader but not a leader of an empire himself.
Also, someone's political value should rarely be based on their public speaking abilities. This shows you why polotics are more out to entertain us than gives us a real leader IMO. This is why we have people fighting to get Arnold in office. I hope God does bless America cause at the rate we're going, we're doomed.

Want to be President? Get an acting career and go into California Politics.

 

[Roarck]

I always liked Quayle. He was the best Sen. from our state IMHO for several years and then got a bum rap from news. Yeah, he said/did some stupid things but then every one does. Of course his biggest mistake was letting Bush's people "handle" him but........

Loveandpolitics, some good quotes but you might want to check out what the first A in NASA stands for. (hint: it's not space and it is a big part of their job.)

Personally I don't mind being compared to Qualye. I just wonder why it takes so many points to get above him!

 

[henrycccc]

I wonder what the world would be like if dan quayle had won the nomination instead of bush.

 

[Oggums]

The Al Gore / Internet thing is a much better jab than putting DQ in last place on the scoreboard.

 

[MadMaligor]

And leave it to the conservatives to oversimplify things...as always.

The young are liberal because they have an open mind- they have not lived in society as long as adults and thus are less spoiled by it. They are not as used to it. So, they can often better see it's faults.
The old are more conservative because change is not usually in their interests. They have figured out how to live in society as is, and any changes would just make their life harder in most cases.

Of course, there are other reasons.

As for Bush....
What I don't get is what the Bush supporters think the man has done for the country. He's sent the government into massive debt, increased the number of terrorists and terrorist attacks worldwide, made Iraq into a nightmare, filled our government with corruption, intruded on our civil liberties, and turned the world against us. What he's done isn't conservative. It isn't liberal. It's just stupid.

The problem with both liberals and conservatives is they BOTH oversimplify and neither one seems capable of accepting that not everyone driving at a slower speed in life is an idiot and not everyone driving at a faster speed in life is a maniac. The only sane ones are going at the speed and in the direction they are...yeah thats intelligence.

I do know though that the older I get, the more I realize how stupid I was.

Btw...Dan invented the internet. Deal with it.