Anti-Obama GI's Afghan Orders Revoked

If you hold no respect for the military then get a large enough petion and get the armed forces removed back to a minor force of 10,000 for basic protection, then I'm gonna watch as every Terrorist the world over invades. You should care and respect them, they are the only thing keeping you safe at night.
I respect the military, even though I think the defense budget can safely be trimmed. However, certain particular members such as Major Kook deserve no respect. All he has managed to do this year is waste resources of the military to devote to his stunt and to put the military in a position to either do a quick involuntary call up to replace him or deploy one Major short. That is not protecting my safety one bit except to the extent that it puts once less moron out in the zone of danger with the true patriots.
 
I respect the military, even though I think the defense budget can safely be trimmed. However, certain particular members such as Major Kook deserve no respect. All he has managed to do this year is waste resources of the military to devote to his stunt and to put the military in a position to either do a quick involuntary call up to replace him or deploy one Major short. That is not protecting my safety one bit except to the extent that it puts once less moron out in the zone of danger with the true patriots.

Now wait a second...in the past you simply complained about those guys not even able to take on 'dead-end third worlders' and now you call them 'true patriots'?

Wow.

I will say this about Candle. He got you to say something that I never, ever would have thought you would say around here....
 
Now wait a second...in the past you simply complained about those guys not even able to take on 'dead-end third worlders' and now you call them 'true patriots'?

Wow.

I will say this about Candle. He got you to say something that I never, ever would have thought you would say around here....
My criticism was of the elected and appointed leadership who made the big strategic blunders. I think it is a given that anyone willing to risk their life for our country is a patriot.
 
My criticism was of the elected and appointed leadership who made the big strategic blunders. I think it is a given that anyone willing to risk their life for our country is a patriot.

Why thank you! :blush:
 
I'll even join them to help repel the invaders.

And what good will you be? NONE. It takes a long time to train up new recruits, you would be late.

I hate when people say this kind of thing. Its meaningless bull crap.
 
And what good will you be? NONE. It takes a long time to train up new recruits, you would be late.
It doesn't take too long at all to point your own weapon at an actual enemy invading your actual country and pull the trigger. I'll even buy my own bullets. What will you be doing? Whining you didn't sign up for the military 8 months before? WOLVERINES!

But don't worry. It will never happen unless we REALLY piss off the Canadians or the Mexicans, which also means our defense budget should be tiny.

I hate when people say this kind of thing. Its meaningless bull crap.
I hate it when people think they actually know what my opinion is when they clearly don't. It is meaningless bull crap.
 
You always say that. You are very misunderstood here. Maybe communicate your thoughts better?

And the "wars are evil i'm against all war, but I will become a tiger when the enemy tank is front of my house" line is old and LAME. sorry
 
You always say that. You are very misunderstood here. Maybe communicate your thoughts better?
Only by those who can't seem to be able to comprehend very simple English. Maybe ask before jumping to conclusions next time?

And the "wars are evil i'm against all war, but I will become a tiger when the enemy tank is front of my house" line is old and LAME. sorry
That's ironic because I happen to think the "US can do no wrong and everybody who hates us for our absurd foreign policies is evil" line is old and LAME. Sorry.
 
Who said that? You actually did say "I will join them in repelling the invaders ... I will buy my own bullets" lol It just sounds sooo ridiculous, lol edit: Just tryin to help you and others like you not to say this kind of thing. It turns whatever you might have been saying into a joke (if it wasn't already). I hear it alot.

Don't change the subject
 
It just sounds sooo ridiculous...
It sure does. Who could possibly think the rest of the world hates us for our freedom instead of being the land of world's biggest jerks, as the subject of this thread once again attests?

Don't change the subject
Me? :lol:

Speaking of which, what exactly do you think of this traitor to his country? Care to add anything to the actual subject?
 
It sure does. Who could possibly think the rest of the world hates us for our freedom instead of being the land of world's biggest jerks, as the subject of this thread once again attests?

Me? :lol:

Speaking of which, what exactly do you think of this traitor to his country? Care to add anything to the actual subject?

Not a big fan of his, who would be? (Not anyone worth speaking with, unless you are just so full of air, you gotta blow it off on someone). I didn't really have anything to add, but I had to lol at your comment about whooping up on enemy tanks with your gat (somewhat exagerated, but thats what I pictured in my mind).
 
Not a big fan of his, who would be?
That's what I keep trying to figure out. But all the talking heads that appear to echo your own rhetoric don't seem to share you lack of enthusiasm.

but I had to lol at your comment about whooping up on enemy tanks with your gat (somewhat exagerated, but thats what I pictured in my mind).

So, which one has all these tanks you are so worried about? Mexico or Canada?
 
So, which one has all these tanks you are so worried about? Mexico or Canada?

With "communist" Obama "purging" the military and withdrawing from occupied countries
While "hitler" Obama is building up the army to invade and occupy countries.
Those tanks will probably be US Abrams
 
But don't worry. It will never happen unless we REALLY piss off the Canadians or the Mexicans, which also means our defense budget should be tiny.

He that desires peace, let him plan for war. - Vegetius
 
If you hold no respect for the military then get a large enough petion and get the armed forces removed back to a minor force of 10,000 for basic protection, then I'm gonna watch as every Terrorist the world over invades. You should care and respect them, they are the only thing keeping you safe at night.

Cue image of bizarrely armed men and women of all types from your stereotypical Saudi born/ Afghan trained terrorist to Vikings, Zombies, Roman Charioteers, Cavemen, and Christmas Walmart shoppers pouring over our borders by the millions.
 
While the split among the military is 70-30 or 60-40 along rep/dem lines, you still see plenty of Obama/Biden stickers on cars when you go into base.
Here's an interesting article** on the subject which isn't so black-and-white as you noted here (I realize you are just generalizing).

A couple money quotes:
Participants in the Military Times survey, for example, tended to be white, older, and more senior in rank--that is, they were hardly a representative sampling of the armed services. Another oft-cited study, conducted in 1998 by Feaver and Richard Kohn, found that 64 percent of military leaders identified themselves as ideologically conservative. While this was a groundbreaking study of senior officer attitudes, the data told us little about what the vast majority of military personnel--soldiers and non-commissioned officers--believe. After all, officers constitute only 14 percent of Army personnel; and only 6 percent hold the rank of major or higher.

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It is true that the upper echelons of the military tilt right. My own research confirmed that about two-thirds of majors and higher-ranking officers identify as conservative, as previous studies found. But that tilt becomes far less pronounced when you expand the pool of respondents. That is because only 32 percent of the Army's enlisted soldiers consider themselves conservative, while 23 percent identify as liberal and the remaining 45 percent are self-described moderates. These numbers closely mirror the ideological predilections of the civilian population. According to data collected in 2004 by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, 37 percent of the civilian, non-veteran population identified as conservative, 24 percent as liberal, and the remaining 39 percent as moderate or undecided.

**before people shoot the messenger/source, keep in mind that TNR is reprinting an excerpt from a book. Here's info on the author:

Jason Dempsey is an infantry officer assigned to the Army's 10th Mountain Division. This article is based on his forthcoming book, Our Army: Soldiers, Politics and American Civil-Military Relations.

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In terms of this whole truther/birther thing, I don't think you can simply draw tidy lines to specific affiliations. That said...

First, I admit this is anecdotal, but I only know two truthers and they are both rabid libertarians. One voted for Ron Paul, the other for McCain. The truther thing to me reads much more like a trap for the anti-government types. Remember, for the truthers to be right Clinton is implicated as is the whole facets of government structure that would include both parties, non-partisans, etc...

However the birther thing skews way more religious right extremist. Again, anecdotal, but I know 2 koolaid drinking birthers and a couple more who are checking the ratio of sugar and water in the koolaid mix. Of these 4, the 2 die hards are total religious-right, Sarah Palin will bring salvation, Obama is a socialist/communist/fascist/Muslim. Of the 2 leaners, one is the Ron Paul voter and the other just a kind general conspiracy nut (believes in UFOs, Bigfoot, mob/Castro/Johnson killed Kennedy, but oddly enough not a truther).

So, I think the birther movement taps into a pool of pure Obama hatred, very much akin to the irrational Clinton hatred of the 90s. NOTHING will dissuade them.

Anyhoo...
 
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