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Any plans on adding movies?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Planetfall Mod' started by sylandro, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. sylandro

    sylandro Chieftain

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    Hi, I just wanted to know if there were any plans on adding the original SMAC/X movies (intro, secret projects, etc) into Planetfall. Probably not, since it's not mentioned anywhere, but they're so great it just struck me with curiosity.
     
  2. Maniac

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    I'd need someone to convert the movie files from wve to avi and then to bik, and upload the files somewhere.
     
  3. sylandro

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    Can I do it? I have time only on weekends due to work and college but I would eventually post them here...

    PS: If someone would like to help, this app converts the elusive .wve files to uncompressed .avi: http://hcl.wcrevival.de/movie_player.html
    Converting/compressing the avi to .bik shouldn't be hard afterwards.
     
  4. Maniac

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    Yep, the WC movie player (also attached here) can be used to convert from wve to avi. At least everyone but me can do so. The program doesn't work correctly on my computer for some reason.

    Thereafter RAD Video Tools can be used to "Bink" the avi into a bik file. Not having converted an avi yet, I don't know which compression settings should be used. Some experimenting would be necessary if a balance can be found between file size and movie quality. I guess a file size similar to the original wve might work?

    maritimeControl.wve would be a good file for testing.
     
  5. sylandro

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    So far i've converted all the WVE files to AVI without problems except on some videos which look extremely pixelated (citizensDefense looks absoutely horrid), and the only workaround would be video capturing the movie from inside the game with an external application.

    Right now I'm experimenting with compressing the AVIs. Since the original videos are very small in resolution, it is very easy to compress them without losing quality. The thing is that when they're played on Civ4 they're greatly enlarged, and look really pixelated. I don't think there's a way to avoid this, unless you can adjust Civ4's video playback window size.

    For binking files the following equation can be used:

    Data Rate = ( Desired_File_Size / ( Number_of_Frames / Frames_per_Second) )

    PS: I'm using a letterbox effect for movies that have different aspect ratios, so they fit in a 4:3 resolution, and have made a copy of opening.wve without the Firaxis logo.
     
  6. Maniac

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    It is possible to change the size and x-y ratio of the movie window. IIRC from my past enquiries it is even possible to let it differ depending on which movie is playing. So there's no need at all to change the size or the ratio of the SMAC movies.
     
  7. sylandro

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    Here is a small sample: maritimeControl.bik

    If it matches your quality standards, I'll upload all the movies tomorrow at work. If not, I could use the feedback to reconvert the files and upload new versions next week, though there's not much that can be changed.

    Here are the settings I used on RAD:

    Compress data to a % of the original: 100
    multiple of the overall data rate: 3.0
    Scaling compression: no scaling
    How many frames to preview during bandwidth allocation: 8
    Contrast: 16
    Smooth%: 3
    Compress audio level: 4
    De-noise marked.

    I did not intend to reduce size, but without wanting, the output file was reduced from 7mb (WVE) to 5.7mb (BIK). The total size is around 300MB.

    Finally, here's a list of the movie files categorized by video size (and a small explanation to the less obvious names):

    Spoiler :
    400x192:
    asceticVirtues
    bulkMatter
    citizensDefense
    clinicalImmortality
    cloningVats
    close_ct -- caretaker victory
    close_us -- usurper victory
    commandNexus
    dreamTwister
    empathGuild
    hunterSeeker
    livingRefinery
    maritimeControl
    nanofactory
    networkBackbone
    neuralAmplifier
    open -- alternate (less res) version of smacx opening
    opening -- smac opening
    pholusMutagen
    planetaryDatalinks
    planetaryTransit
    selfAwareColony
    singularityInductor
    smacxcloudbase
    smacxgrid
    smacxnethack
    spaceElevator
    supercollider
    telepathicMatrix
    theoryOfEverything
    theyTranscend -- other faction transcends
    transcend -- transcend victory
    universalTranslator
    virtualWorld
    xenoempathyDome

    400x208:
    merchantExchange

    320x240:
    angels -- data angels defeat
    believe -- believers defeat
    caretake -- caretaker defeat
    cyborg -- cybernetic consciousness defeat
    cyborgFactory
    drone -- free drones defeat
    fungboy -- voice of planet defeat
    gaians -- gaian defeat
    hive -- human hive defeat
    humanGenome
    logo -- firaxis logo
    losealien -- generic alien defeat
    loseman -- generic man defeat
    losewoman -- generic woman defeat
    morgan -- morganite defeat
    peace -- peacekeeper defeat
    pirates -- nautilus pirates defeat
    spartans -- spartan defeat
    univ -- university defeat
    ususrper -- usurper defeat
    voiceOfPlanet
    weatherParadigm

    598x288:
    openingx -- smacx opening


    Full:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?miih22mzddz
    http://www.mediafire.com/?wyywmyymyvd
     
  8. Maniac

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    The sound sounds different at the start of the movie (a consequence of de-noise?), but for the rest it looks ok!
    Do you mean you have already converted all the movies?

    If not, I'd divide the movies in five groups in terms of priority:

    Spoiler :
    maritimeControl
    planetaryDatalinks
    planetaryTransit
    spaceElevator

    cyborgFactory
    merchantexchange
    nanofactory
    networkbackbone
    neuralamplifier
    pholusMutagen
    selfAwareColony
    singularityInductor
    smacxcloudbase
    smaccxgrid
    smacxmanifold
    smacxnethack

    asceticvirtues
    citizensdefense
    commandnexus
    humangenome
    longevityvaccine
    supercollider
    telepathicmatrix
    transcend
    voiceofplanet
    weatherparadigm

    angels
    believe
    cyborg
    drone
    gaians
    hive
    morgan
    opening
    peace
    pirates
    spartans
    univ

    caretake
    fungboy
    usurper
    bulkmatter
    clinical_immortality
    cloningvats
    dreamtwister
    close_ct
    close_us
    empathguild
    hunterseeker
    livingrefinery
    theoryofeverything
    theytranscend
    universaltranslator
    virtualworld
    xenoempathydome


    Woops hadn't noticed this yet while writing my post. :goodjob:
     
  9. sylandro

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    As you may have noticed, there are a few movies that look really pixelated because of the Wing Commander Converter (citizensDefense and theyTranscend come to mind). I put a 'REEMP' tag at the end of their filenames to note they might need to be replaced.

    The only way to replace them with better quality movies is by directly video capturing from inside the game, something I can't do (I tried and the output video stutters and there's no audio), so some outside help will be needed.

    PS: If you want I can re-Bink the movies without De-Noise, but as I said that'd be next weekend.
     
  10. Maniac

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    Major problem: I'm afraid I can't uncompress those archives. I've never ever seen z01 before. :confused:
     
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    You can uncompress them with 7-Zip.
     
  12. sylandro

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    For some strange reason when I try to decompress those zip and z01 archives, there's an error saying they are unsupported archives. :confused;

    But the rars do work fortunately! Thanks! :)

    It's strange some movies didn't survive the conversion well. Was the quality loss because of wve->avi or avi->bik?

    Adding movies to the existing secret projects will be first on the priority list for patch g. :)
     
  14. sylandro

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    Oh, it must be because I used WinZip 11, it uses a new compression format I think.

    It's the WVE ->AVI conversion that comes bad, it must be because that program is designed for Wing Commander 3 rather than SMAC. All those YouTube videos that use that utility have the same problem.

    If I ever find a way to get more quality videos I will post them here. Thanks!

    PS: Are the intro videos also on the list? Hehe. The smacx intro could be played when the aliens arrive (on later versions) and the original intro could be used when the game starts for the first time or as the opening slideshow (although I almost never get the slideshow to play)
     
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    For the intro video I was thinking I could look into letting that movie play inside the Dawn of Man screen. But first the simple things: movies for the secret projects. :D
     
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    Hmm, a setback: movies don't play for me.

    I had set the game option to "No Movies" for a long time, but reactivated it now to test a secret project movie. In the attached picture you can see how movies look...

    The strange thing is that in the past movies did play properly. I even had already succesfully tested the Weather Paradigm movie in some distant past. I don't see how it could be a graphical memory issue either, as I even get this result using a 250k single frame placeholder test 'movie'.
     
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    Does the movie play proper when you directly open it? In your Bink player thus?
     
  18. Maniac

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    Yep.&é'(è!ç
     
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    If you attach the necessary files in their proper folder structure here, I could take a look tomorrow how it looks on my end...
    From the top of my head, perhaps it is a resolution problem? Meaning the available screen is too big for the resolution of the movie itself?
     
  20. sylandro

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    The resolution looks oddly small. Even on the smallest, 1024x768, the movie player fits complelety without overlapping any of the bottom bar or the buttons on the top... also the minimap looks weird. Video card config problem?

    EDIT: D'oh! Just tried and never noticed it did overlap.
     

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