Apolyton blog on Ancient and Classical Cultural Policies in Civ5
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stealth_nsk
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Looks like backward translation from German doesn't always fit.
stealth_nsk
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what do you mean with this?
To mark the difference between "Freedom" and "Liberty", "Freedom" was translated to German as "Unabhängigkeit". So the blog author called it "Independance"
To mark the difference between "Freedom" and "Liberty", "Freedom" was translated to German as "Unabhängigkeit". So the blog author called it "Independance"
Ah, yes, right...
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I had hoped what we knew about aristocracy was a mistake and in reality the 33% wonder production bonus only applied to the capital, but now it looks like it really is empire wide.
Sucks for Egypt and looks overpowered compared to many other policies.
Sucks for Egypt and looks overpowered compared to many other policies.
Jerrymander
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Double unit experience isn't overpowered?
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Hey, what's up with the Freedom tree? It sucks donkey balls tbh. It's good for initial expansion, but comparing it to Honor or Tradition? Seriously, seems there won't be any "tough choices" when leveling up that oh-so complicated Social Policies tree... 
stealth_nsk
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Great for Egypteans - they'll own everyone.
Also, how many winders you're going to build in a regular game after opening this policy? Doubt the bonus will be that much.
stealth_nsk
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Hey, what's up with the Freedom tree? It sucks donkey balls tbh. It's good for initial expansion, but comparing it to Honor or Tradition? Seriously, seems there won't be any "tough choices" when leveling up that oh-so complicated Social Policies tree...
Meritocracy is really cool and others are useful as well. For example 1 production per city grants much more production than +33% wonder construction, I suppose.
Aussie_Lurker
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I concur. Representation looks really sucky now in comparison-even if you consider the value of culture for buying tiles & Social Policies. I reckon they should have stuck with its effects (albeit toned down) from Civ4!)
Aussie.
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Maybe. Depends on how many new promotions it will bring, how much exp you can get from barbs and how muc you alerady get from buildings.
Hey, what's up with the Freedom tree? It sucks donkey balls tbh. It's good for initial expansion, but comparing it to Honor or Tradition? Seriously, seems there won't be any "tough choices" when leveling up that oh-so complicated Social Policies tree...
Agree. Freedom looks very weak and I don't see why someone would choose more policies than the initial settler bonus.
They won't if someone else get's the policy first and it diminishes their relative advantage if everybody chooses aristocracy, provided both works as a %bonus to productoin points.
If Egypt's ability was decreased build costs for wonders things would look much better for them.
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stealth_nsk
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Egypt bonus is generally what they could pick one early wonder and build their strategy around it. After you go that far in SP, Egyptians will no long could rely on their bonus anyway - you could just beat them in wonder tech.
Hey, what's up with the Freedom tree? It sucks donkey balls tbh. It's good for initial expansion, but comparing it to Honor or Tradition? Seriously, seems there won't be any "tough choices" when leveling up that oh-so complicated Social Policies tree...
Initial expansion have been the key to winning the game in Civ1-4 and I expect it to be an important part also in Civ5. I think the freedom tree looks stong
Mercade
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Except that once you unlocked a tree, unlocking a second tree is costing more, so if you get Freedom just for the initial settler bonus, then you're paying a higher price later for other trees.
And early bonusses are nice if they're active continuously. +1 culture/turn/city adds up over a lot of turns. Same for +25% worker output. Since you cannot stack workers anymore, this is one of the few ways to make them faster.
stealth_nsk
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Depends on strategies, I suppose. Lack of Rationalism's science bonuses could be painful.
Mercade
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Actually given the placement I think they translated Liberty into Unabhängigkeit, not Freedom. This screenshot shows Freedom is translated as Freiheit.To mark the difference between "Freedom" and "Liberty", "Freedom" was translated to German as "Unabhängigkeit". So the blog author called it "Independance"
We don't really know what Rationalism's policies do, do we?
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