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Arabia - Boosting Islam

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Rhye's and Fall of Civilization' started by deanej, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. deanej

    deanej Deity

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    Currently playing as Arabia, and I have the first two goals and Islam is at 32%. My current plans are to settle another city in India and grow those as big as possible. I'm also sending missionaries to the Aztec and Inca. Unsure if I want to actually conquer their lands - Aztec could be worth it, but probably not the Inca. I don't like taking vassals in RFC because they can initiate war, but if vassaling them would be a very good idea let me know. I might also have to take over Europe by force to spread Islam and curb Christianity. I might also give my European cities to Portugal depending on the situation (mainly, if I have to invade Europe or not; Madrid is my main production center there). The Vikings and Russia also look like good targets for missionaries but with the limit it will be slow going; probably quicker to just build an army and take everything over, especially since my stability seems to be doing well despite all the ahistorical expansion. Oh, and Mali beat me to University of Sankore and I had to give Turkey a tech and ~200 gold just to get them to convert.

    Current obstacles:
    -Plague; my military and population look to take a beating soon and will leave me vulnerable to attacks from the Dutch, Germany, Independent Rome and Venice, and Turkey
    -Turkey isn't Friendly yet so no open borders; hopefully soon. They also decided to be jerks and settled right next to Baghdad.

    If anyone has any comments let me know. I just wanted to see if the community has any feedback on how I can improve. Right now it looks like I'm making good progress as long as plague doesn't cause huge issues.
     

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  2. G-Max

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    Just keep pumping Missionaries. If a player refuses to sign Open Borders with you, then declare war and sent heavily armed escorts for your missionaries, but don't bother trying to conquer them.
     
  3. Jusos2108

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    It is not possible to spread religion via missionaries, if you are at war with the target civ.
     
  4. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Yeah, that doesn't really make sense. Ironically the best way to spread Islam is to not adopt it, because it makes opening borders with Europe much easier.
     
  5. AnotherPacifist

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    Gift missionaries (even if they're in theocracy).
    Gift trashy cities with Islam and induce them to switch to it BEFORE they get Christianity (it's doable with Germany, England and Vikings and sometimes France and Netherlands).
     
  6. Jusos2108

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    Also: get the conquerors, conquer one or two biggest cities and gift them back to the natives.
     
  7. G-Max

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    Oh. Damn.

    In that case... settler spam?
     
  8. mitsho

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    1) Convert away from Islam, get better relations with Europe and spam them with missionaries, even in theocracies... Founding and Growing too many cities outside of your area will destabilize you

    2) Go conquering cities and then gift them back after they received Islam (and the mosque and monastery....)

    That's the main options I see
     
  9. NerfCothons

    NerfCothons Warlord

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    I find an effective strategy is political domination of Colonial Empires. If instead of conquering Spain you subjugate them, convert each city (therefor making their national conversion natural and unlikely to revert), and speed along their technological arc, they will have a variety of promising cities ripe for the spread of Islam at no stability cost to you. The same can easily be done with Portugal. England can sometimes be vassalized peacefully. The Dutch can often be converted with a single missionary.

    If your vassals are sluggish to go forth and multiply, then you can settle a future metropolis like New York, New Orleans, Chicago, Belem, Rio de Janiero, Montevideo and liberate them to either native vassals or colonial vassals with an existing interest in the respective area.
     
  10. Bouw

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    i fixed it for ya in the same turn
    asked china to be your vassal, got into a war with khmer and mongols but I could make peace right away
    also signed open borders with japan
    and i think you can get open borders with russia when you meet them
    Maybe china will drag you into a war with mongols/khmer later in the game but i think the chinese can defend themselves pretty well as they are second in score after you and their enemies are last place.
    So all you have to do is convert china's megacities and your done
     

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