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  1. KingArthur

    KingArthur Searching for the Holy Grail

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    Here are the links to our tech trees. These trees have been designed with The Steampunk: Lost Worlds scenario in mind.

    Era 1
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    Era 3
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    Era 4
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    Key to Trees:

    Blue = unit
    Blue (underlined) = special character unit
    Red = improvement
    Brown = wonder
    Green = resource
    Purple = government

    Here are lists of the Improvements and Wonders that tie in with the technologies above

    Improvements
    Improvements and Wonders continued
     
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    KingArthur Searching for the Holy Grail

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    A list of tech icons required to complete the scenario

    Landships *
    Armoured Bulkheads *
    Asylum Districts *
    Turbines
    Air Tactics
    Wireless Telegraphy
    Mechatronics
    World-wide Commerce
    Practical Invention
    Portable Beam Weaponry
    Forcefields
    Teleforce

    * work in progress
     
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    A list of Wonder images required to complete the scenario

    The Royal Albert Docks
    The Royal Exchange
    Around the World in 80 Days
    Universal Library
    Illuminati ** (Blue Monkey)
    The Crystal Palace
    Scotland Yard
    Bedlam
    Sandorf's Armoury
    Ada Byron Institute
    A Christmas Carol
    Moon Base
    Lloyd's of London
    The Violet Ray
    Edison's Lab
    The Salvation Army
    Predictive Engine
    The Wardenclyffe Tower
    The Roch Fulgerator
    Orbital Telescope ** (Blue Monkey)
    Buffalo Bill's Wild West
    Bensington & Redwoods Elixir
    Public Call Stations
    Das Kapital
    Dr Frankenstein's Laboratory
    Dimensional Portal
    Invisibility Formula
    Krupp's Armaments Factory
    The Penny Dreadful
    Home Office
    The Weldon Institute
    Stock Exchange
    Baker Street Irregulars
    Iron Works
    Red Cross ** (Blue Monkey)
    The Gold Bug
    Time Machine Project
    Martian Foreign Office
    Lunar Foreign Office
    Magickal Cabal
    Torchwood

    * work in progress
    ** complete

    A list of Improvement Buildings required
    Weapons Lab
    Wealth ** (Vanilla images used)
    Royal Office
    Warehouse
    Private Club
    Private Quarters
    Export-Import Co.
    Laboratory
    Pleasure Garden
    Police Station
    Waterworks
    Theatre
    Port
    Museum
    Salon
    Opium Den
    Workshop
    Analytical Engine
    Textile Mill
    Port Doors
    Factory ** (Vanilla images used)
    Gas Lighting
    Infirmary
    Telegraph Station
    Telephone Exchange
    Wireless Transmitter
    Electric Lighting
    Hangar
    Railway Station
    Electromechanical Computer
    Sewerage System
    Cloudbuster
    Pneumatic Subway System
    Customs Office
    Shipyard
    Steel Works
    Mental Asylum
    Telautomatic Defence System
    Teleporter
     
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    Well, since KingArthur let the cat out of the bag, here's my original PM to him:
     
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    These pics are amazing. If the scenario can come out with a media package of that polish, it will be a work of art. Tech names are really confusing though, but if it adds to the atmosphere, why not. Can't be more puzzling than Latin anyway ;)
     
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    Thanks. I'm not the maker of the images themselves, just a searcher & CnPer.

    As to the names, I'm pretty sure "Chemical Warfare" isn't confusing, but some of the others would need explanation. "Chrononautics" for example is time travel (by analogy to Aeronautics and Astronautics), "Cloudbusting" is weather control (the image was actually a weird attempt at anti-dirigible defense), and "Slipstream Warfare" is warfare carried out across alternative timelines. This mod ought end up with a pretty fascinating 'pedia.

    If you have questions about any of the others feel free to ask. I have a feeling that a lot on the long list will make much more sense when there's an icon to look at.
     
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    You mean that the image #8 is actually a real photo? What where they willing to achieve by throwing a massive trumpet concerto at dirigibles? Pics will help a lot understanding what the techs are about for sure. Can't wait to see this progressing!
     
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    A tentative era 2 tech tree. As I've said previously it's a bit conventional so far but I still have 2 more eras to fill.

    Any ideas what to put in Occultism at this stage? I had an idea to put a 'sleeper' improvement in there that would be a prerequisite for wonders and improvements in later eras.
     

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    Occultism could bring the Wonder Ordo Templi Orientis; or the Golden Dawn, perhaps, though maybe these should come later (with the Thelema tech!). Theosophy might go in there somewhere too, and it'd be fun to have some Lovecraftian stuff (the Necronomicon!) although I don't know so much about that.
     
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    I can't really comment on the specifics of the tech tree. I have a whole "Things Man Was Not Meant To Know" category of tech icons I'm working on - Thelemic, Spiritualist, Fortean, Mu, Lovecraftian, Hollow Earth, Lost Worlds/Civilizations, etc.
     
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    Progress so far. I have refined era 1 and it's pretty much how I want it now.

    Era 2 has been hammered out but has a few empty techs (so if you have any ideas to fill them in let me know).

    Era 3 is a bit skeletal. I think this is as far as I will go as a fourth era would be pushing it a bit. I need help with era 3 though to come up with some more techs. Primarily this era is all about the Moon Race so if you can come up with some nice alternatives for the spaceship parts please post them:
    SS Thrusters
    SS Engine
    SS Cockpit
    SS Docking Bay
    SS Fuel Cells,
    SS Life Support System
    SS Stasis Chamber,
    SS Storage/Supply,
    SS Exterior Casing
    SS Planetary Party Lounge
     
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    To flesh out the tech tree try first laying out the units, improvements & wonders large & small you want, in roughly the order you want them to appear. That may suggest, after a little rumination, the techs that are needed.


    Edit: I'll give you two examples from your own tree:

    Automata are self-directed mechanical creatures. Historically they began to be developed in Europe at least as early as the Enlightenment. clearly an automata unit needs technologies related to clock work & logic, so Analytical Engine makes sense as a precursor.

    A Lunar Voyage requires some means of propulsion adequate to the task, and a way for the voyagers to survive. So there could a tech intermediate to flight & the Lunar Expedition for the propulsion system. And perhaps a line developing from the Submarine tech would make sense since Victorian space suits would probably be based on diving apparatus.
     
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    I like your explanation for subs being a prereq for Lunar Expeditions and I will now move automata to era 2 since it fits in there better. Era 3 is a bit light.
     
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    I've posted my SteamPunk Tech Pack #1. Hopefully some will be of use to you. I've got several more sets in the works, although arrival dates are unpredictable.
     
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    Updated tech trees now on posts 2 and 3.
     
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    I suggest instead of a space ship you do a space cannon. I remember reading that they were one of the first imagined ways to get into outer space. Here is a pic
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FETMlaunch.jpg
    Wouldn't go right into the picture.
     
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    As a matter of fact one of the tech icons I'm working on is for "Ballistic Flight" featuring a super cannon & Melies' moon.
     
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    A space cannon is an excellent idea.

    I was thinking of gravity shields where you shield an object from the force of gravity but I think a cannon is more fun.
     
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    Yes, Jules Verne-style space exploration - I agree it's more fun than the Wells-style "Cavorite".
     
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    I also think I'll change some other spaceship part names to impart some flavour. How about SS Engine Room, SS Galley, SS Cabins, SS Bridge?
     
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