For a while puppets were the best choice you could make. They couldn't produce units, but gave gold to buy them in cities that had all the promotion buildings anyways. They produced more happiness than they consumed. They took nothing and gave many benefits. Now they've been nerfed to the point that I literally don't use them past ancient and early classical. Hell, I even annex before I can make courthouses just to avoid the penalties and get the courthouse faster once unlocked. Puppets as a mechanic feel largely removed from the game. Some would say this improves balance. Some would say this makes vassals better. I don't know. I think it feels bad/unfun. I'm just not sure if I'm overreacting to the changes. So now that we've had time to really drink in the changes: What do you guys think? Do puppets have a place in the game? What role do you expect puppets to play? Are they too weak for their intended role? If any, What changes would you like to see?