Are some maps just too difficult?

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I planned to upload the map, but snip&sketch has broken and need to migrate to new PC.

Here's what I ran into:
continent map
immortal
To west Canada, to east Macedonia. Both about 13 tiles away.
I tried 4 different starting positions within 2 turns for city 1 and 2 starting positions for city 2. City behind river and defense at least 3. I've tried putting city 2
as far away from both but still within 4 tiles of city1.

My builds were just warriors, couple slingers, and 1 settler. After 2 slingers, finished archery and upgraded. Then only build warriors as no time to build archers.

In 4 different restarts, Macedonia attacks with 4 warriors, 1 slinger and then 3 archers. After about 6 turns, Canada also attacks with 3 warriors and slinger.

I just gave up on that map. Usually I can eck out something, even if I have to give away units, but this one was too difficult.

Does this happen to others?
 
The only thing I didn't try was a Hail Mary move, i.e, instead of settling soon, run to the south and hope can find a place far enough away to not interest the 2 civs that love to attack. Has anyone ever tried this approach and had it work?
 
Thank you admin for removing spam comment on this thread. I'm going to give up on this thread BUT next time I figured out I can capture a screen image with phone and then you all will have something to comment on.
 
The best way to deal with the situation is to declare war instead of being declared, while trying also to bribe anyone into it. Unless nothing has changed recently, AI would accept peace after 10 turns as a defender. As an attacker, they won't sue for peace as long as are in advantegous position.
 
To answer your question, yes. Some maps, you give up on. It may be due to aggressive neighbors, it may be due to lack of food (limiting your growth), it may be due to back luck with barbs. I'm mildly surprised that Canada declared on you; their attribute is not to declare Surprise Wars. That suggests that they got grumpy with you over time, so that they had a casus belli of some kind.

Part of the suggestions here are to send a delegation at the earliest possible opportunity -- if possible, on the turn that you meet them. If you can keep them civil, friendly greeting, the thinking goes, it is easier to turn them into friends. Macedonia, on the other hand, is known to be aggressive. They will invade you, sooner or later. But you might be able to avoid a two-front war.

In Civ6, more than other games in the franchise, I tend to re-roll the starts more often. The barbs have often been a thorn in my side.
 
In the thousands of hours I have on civ 6, there has only been an extremely few ones where it was actually impossible to survive, and those were mostly related to being boxed in at the start and losing the capital on loyalty right after.
Only one game did I ever lose due to aggressive neighbours, and that was on deity with Chandragupta and Suleiman attacking immediately once they spotted me (Chandragupta had even moved the army in my direction before spotting me).
In that particular case I could finish building one unit before being jumped, which obviously was insifficient.
Other than that though it hasnt happened to me, and I'm pretty sure there were things you could do to survive that encounter, because there nearly always is.
Post some screenshots the next time and you can get some pointers.
 
I lost the saved game, but did figure out I can take a screen shot with phone, which I will do with next puzzle. TY.
 
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