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Australia is the world's newest police state. Bans small breasts.

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  1. kosiosko 1

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    As a whinging aussie, ask them what game they havn't played, 'cause it was banned, whiny teenagers are the same the world over
     
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    kosiosko 1 - do they actually have an R18+ video game censorship level? I thought that other games that would be normally attracting a R18+ censor level in australia were banned, or the producers were forced to downgrade the violence. Left4Dead 2, for example.
     
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  4. kosiosko 1

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    G'DAY

    I'm in Melb too
    the federal board of classiications, rates ALL film and video games with a rating, M MA R18+ etc. There has been talk of giving a R18+ to several games, as can be done under Fed law , only for imported items thoe, not locale items several years ago quite alot of debate over some chain saw masacre game, to my knoledge it just got a MV15+ rating thats mature Contains violent content RECONDMENED 15+
     
  5. sanabas

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    Not correct. If a film deserves (in the opinion of the AFLC) an R (18+) rating, it receives one, and only those 18+ can legally buy, rent or watch it. If a video game deserves an R (18+) rating, it is refused classification, and thus not available for sale here. This happened to GTA 3 before it was edited to receive an MA (15+) rating, it happened to Left 4 Dead 2, which is also only available here in an edited version, it happened to Manhunt, which was initially given an MA rating, but later pulled from shelves, it happened to Manhunt 2, which has never been available in Australia, and it has happened to various other games. A quick search of games refused classification at http://classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/Search?OpenForm also brings up Aliens vs Predator, Reservoir dogs, Silent Hill -homecoming and Fallout 3.

    As for the OP, I'm still trying to find a reliable source of info about it.
     
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    sanabas Psycho Bunny Hall of Fame Staff

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    No, it can not be done under federal law. We DO NOT have an R rating for games, though we do have one for films. Google Michael Atkinson, South Australia's attorney general, to read some more info on why the law has not yet been changed.
     
  7. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    Sanabas & Taillesskangaru are correct. You can just Wiki it if you want anymore proof.

    EDIT: And if you want more proof, here are the relevant sections of the Act, couresty of Comlaw:

    There's no mention of whatever you seem to think exists.

    Its the Australian Government they won't even explain things to the states, let alone the Australian public.
     
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    On R18+ for games in Australia, games that deserve R18+ are Refused Classification. This makes it illegal to buy, sell, rent, own or watch/play. This applies to both imports and locally sold titles.
    There is an exemption for many online games, as they are part of an unintentional loophole in the classification laws. These would only be covered by existing internet laws (prohibiting small breasts and all that other depraved :p content).
     
  9. Masada

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    The relevant legislation, again:

     
  10. kosiosko 1

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    L4D2 is avalible here BUT you won't find it in big glossy mega game stores-- self censorship, they don't want to attract bad publicity

    AVATAR- the movie screen recently---- the lead up promo's on t.v. several months ago carried the advisor, YET TO BE CLASSIFIED BY THE FILM CLASSIFICATION BOARD,

    It's a power of the FEDERALE GOVERMENT only appyling to imported material, NOT LOCALE stuff, the few films that are BANNED by not classifying them, are promptly Imported under someother section of the Act and shown by the ART crowd AS all the libertains go to showing their support against Cenorship (Me included) The trashy artless film the makes aprofit far beyound its expectations, applies to be classified gets it this time, and disapears from history

    Like I say the powers are there but are curcumvented in a state vs federale power strugle , like in the U.S.

    The Federale Goverment funds and owns the ABC. a national broadcaster, they would like to cenors it But Can't it's always the elected Party's worst critic, and will often show large segments of "unclasified film '' just to get the debate going on Cenorship if things start to slip
     
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    There's no R rating. I've demonstrated that with the text of the Act itself. Care to give up?

    Yes, they also cut out a whole bunch of things in order to have it reclassified. The first version submitted was refused classification, while the second was accepted after following the Boards suggestions.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/l...ion-in-australia/story-e6frfro0-1225775873481

    What does that prove? The act allows for advertising of yet to be rated titles.

    What? All media mentioned in the Act are subject to the board. Australian ones as well.

    Read the act. They don't bring it in under some other part of the act. They make the changes that the board recommends to achieve a rating and that's that.

    No. It isn't a state issue. There is only one board of classification in Australia.

    What exactly are you smoking? That's irrelevant to the case at hand.
     
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    L4D2 is available here BUT it is an edited version, different to what is available overseas, because the version everyone else is playing was refused classification. As for the self censorship, that's news to me. Both my local EB store and my local JB hifi store have copies.

    Don't know what that has to do with games, or with the banning of films. Movie trailers/other advertising are frequently approved for screening before the final cut of the movie has been classified. Avatar ended up with a PG or an M rating, at a guess, which it was always going to get.

    All this is wrong. I know very few examples of films banned in Oz, one I can think of that was initially banned, then reclassified with an R rating for a few years, then subsequently banned again, was http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/ This film, and others that were refused classification, are certainly not imported under some other section of the act and available for purchase or viewing.

    Films getting refused an R rating is a separate issue anyway. The largest gaping flaw in how the OFLC works is the fact that games are treated very differently from films, because a game that is deemed to be worth an R rating, the equivalent of films like The Godfather, Trainspotting, Fight Club, Pulp Fiction, Full Metal Jacket, etc, then it will be refused classification, and thus not legally available to sell. If films were treated the way games currently are, all those movies listed, plus a host of others, would be banned in Australia.
     
  13. kosiosko 1

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    YES, I WAS WRONG:lol:

    The R18+ for games was mooted by the Goverment but was not followed up on.
    (pity it would have left an option for the importation of the games)

    As to the other section of the act re films-- look at the exemptions for Film festavils
    That is most certainly public viewing, afterwards they always end up clasified

    As to what this has to do with films, ALL censorship laws are related . A theatre group i was involved with was given an injuntion by the state Goverment,against performace," beauty",puplicity, we lost our venue, locale govt owned, new venue, new dates, sell out house,opening night, NOT a peep from the State Government

    As for the Edited verions of the game , just by it from the U.S.
    Breaking the law , maybe there's been lots of censorship cases not many succeed,copywright law, wel lyour bying from the copy right holders

    people can quote pages and pages of acts and regulations , just show me where there is a successfull case agaist someone that is not sort out to there favor within a year,

    YES, I WAS WRONG- YES I WAS WRONG-YES, I WAS WRONG :blush::blush::blush:
     
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    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    I was hoping this thread was going to continue on about the Russian chicken ban. :(

    I know up in Canada, 'small breasts' tie child-porn cases in stitches, because there's often a seeming intention of creating 'child-like' actors. A huge portion of the time, obviously, the actresses are completely unverifiable because they're drugged out rape victims who're pretending to act. The defense's job then consists of trying to figure out how to suggest that the actresses aren't 'obviously' under 18. The cases are very unpleasant.
     
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    I know, that's why I said "the depiction of Aussies in the show". ;)
     
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    Well, paedophilia is technically defined as the attraction to pre-pubescent bodies. Using that framework, I suppose I can understand what they are getting at. There is an entire genre of porn based on legal aged girls who look like children. And there's no question who the target audience is for that.

    [/Devil's Advocate]

    But legal age is legal age.
     
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    i'm glad they didnt outlaw small penises, that would make me feel pretty damn insecure as a man.
     
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    Small penis porn exists?

    Nevermind, I don't want to know.

    Why do I even look in these threads.
     
  19. ParkCungHee

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    In the future, if it exists, theres porn of it.
     
  20. gugalpm

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    So if a woman looks younger than her actual age is, she should be treated as a child?

    Interesting... feels like prejudice to me.
     

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