Aztec/Mexican Units Pack

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OK - on the Renaissance units. We shouldn't reuse the Conquistador name, since it conflicts with an already in-game unit with completely different capabilities. Could add an adjective, maybe "Aztec Conquistador?" Whatever we do, we probably should rename it.

What about new names for the Caravel, Frigate, and Privateer?

Rename the Conquistador 'Caballería pesada'

We will replace the Caravel, Frigate, and Privateer names with their spanish names


carabela (Caravel)

fragata (frigate)

corsario(privateer)
 
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On the Jaguar: it's no problem to switch the game's UU to a new one. But, you have to admit that the unit looks quite good and has special abilities. It's no problem moving the same abilities to the replacement unit. But, if you can see another unit in the early pictures, we can reuse the Jaguar artwork on the new unit, even if it's much later in history.

When you put it that way I think its better just to leave the unit as it is then!
 
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Atomic Units:


Bazooka: (http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/a/ac/Civ5_bazookaidle.jpg/600px-Civ5_bazookaidle.jpg) recolored to the standard uniform color (same as infantry)


Rocket Artillery: That I am unsure about. I will need to talk to you about that later


Anti-tank Gun:

Use the generic tank destroyer but repaint it to a more forest green color and add an aztec symbol on the side



Marine: The generic US marines are actually the same uniform that the standard Mexican soldier wore during the Atomic era. The only real reskin you need for them is to change their helmets to a darker shade of green (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-11-3_16-29-20-jpeg.574096/)


Mobile SAM: A fairly good mix.

Reskin the Spanish one (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-10-31_12-3-38-jpeg.573729/) an add an aztec symbol on the side



Paratrooper: One of these should make a good start:

Comparing mexican paratrooper images to the images here, I think generic 3 is the best fit. Just recolor it to look more like the dutch uniform (the semi-dark green) https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-10-31_11-43-28-jpeg.573719/



Tank: Can use any of these, appropriately recolored.

Medium Tank Generic One, painted a darker shade of green with aztec symbol on the side of the turret



Bomber: Can use any of these, appropriately recolored.

Bomber generic recolored and with symbol


Fighter: German Units for Aztecs?

Actually, they used a more american version plane! They used the P-47D Fighter 'Thunderbird', but the closest thing I could find on Civ 5 was actually on your extra units mod (the P-51 Mustang)


Helicopter Gunship: Uses a Soviet model, which after WW2, it seems the Aztecs would tend to change allegiances to someone who would put pressure on the USA.

Sounds good to me! Just recolor it a bit and add aztec symbols to it


Atomic Bomb: I plan on using the B-29 model that the game usually uses, but with some obnoxiously painted war bird covering the plane.
 
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Information Units: Most of these units will look much like regular game units, but will emblazoned with Aztec symbology prominently to stand out from those regular units. Just need to decide exactly what that symbol will be.

See post #12 below to get an idea of the kind of symbols we're looking for.


Mech Infantry: Russian BMP-2 IPV recolored and with this on the side (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-10-31_12-19-52-jpeg.573738/)


XCOM Squad: Unsure about yet, will need to talk to you about it more


Missile Cruiser:


Nuke Sub: Akula Class sub reskinned with this symbol on the top (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-10-31_12-17-48-jpeg.573735/)


Modern Armor: IS2 heavy tank recolored with this symbol (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-10-31_12-18-21-png.573736/)


GDR: Unsure


Stealth Bomber: Tu-95 Bomber recolored and with aztec plane symbol


Jet Fighter: Mig-29 (same as bomber)


Guided Missile: Unsure


Nuke Missile:Unsure
 
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Misc. Units:


Great Admiral: name? From MC-Leugi's Inca civ

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Great General: name? From Leugi's Gran Colombia. We can easily add a nice Aztec symbol to the flag! Also from Leugi's Mapuche civ. Third is from MC-Leugi's Shoshone civ.

Tlatoani and use the first model. Add the Aztec nation symbol to the flag!


Great Prophet: From TPangolin's The Dene civ.

A little coloring and it will work!



Inquisitor: From TPangolin's Zapotec Battlepriest and Sukritact's Anishinaabe civs.

First one, to strike fear into enemies of Christ!
 
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Alternative Civs: While the mod will definitely add the normal game's Aztec civ, what other custom civs should also be allowed to use these units?

We should compile a list of mods/links, so I can be sure to add those civs to the Civilization_UnitClassOverrides table.

Pretty much any latin american nation is free to use these! We can work out the compatible mods later on :3
 
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Version 1 of the Ancient Era units:

View attachment 573979

All units up and working, except the "Chariot Archer" - don't have a working model of that yet, so I added a "War Chariot" that has a melee attack, but doesn't require horses to make up for the lack of ranged attack.

Also, added the Galley unit, which is a ranged version of the Trireme.

The Warrior unit shown is is the Jaguar alternative. Probably won't use it, though. The Jaguar looks pretty cool already.

If there is anything you want to see recolored, let me know.

I know the icons aren't fixed yet, but I'll wait until I get to the end to do all of the units at the same time.


Boat Close Up:

I would like the see the grey hull recolored to a more brownish wood color


Units Close Up:

View attachment 573766
 
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Version 1 of the Renaissance Era units:


The shield of the Lancers contain an Aztec, 2 headed snake symbol. Can change it if you know of something better. The Cannon unit is simply the Rebel Parrot Gun from Civ5 Civil War scenario. I can recolor it a bit if needed, but would need some suggestions on what colors to use.


The shield should be changed from blue to yellow. The Civ 5 Parrot gun is good, but if you can try to recolor the gunnery crew to look more like the infantry. If




The ships have an Aztec sun symbol I found. Can put in any others that you think work better/

The Symbol should change with the ship!

Caravel: Sun Symbol

Frigate: Jaguar (https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/images-8/822_00_2.jpg)

Privateer: Death (https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/images-8/822_00_2.jpg)
 
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Version 1 of the Industrial Era units:

Land Units: Haven't lined up all the infantry units, but it's possible to switch them around if it looks better (e.g. switch the Rifleman for the Musketman, etc.). We want to show a "progression" in the unit look from early to late. Will be easier to see once they're all built.

Ironclad:

If you manage to reskin the ironclad, thats great! Either the Tennessee Model of Ironclad or this model. But I would like the rain symbol (https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/images-8/822_00_2.jpg)

Rifleman:

I see 12 soldiers. I think 5 shoulder be the guerilla ones, four should be the white uniformed ones, and three the blue uniformed ones (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-11-1_9-1-40-jpeg.573862/)


Cavalry:

I like that Cavalry! See, unlike the lancer Conquistador model, this shows the slow transition from fashionable garb to more practical clothing



Artillery:

The artillery is perfect! If you can find a way to reskin the artillery crew, great. If not, perfectly fine. The symbols are a nice touch also!



Gatling Gun:

I was thinkin something more like this but recolored (http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/5/50/Civ5_gatlinggunidle.jpg/600px-Civ5_gatlinggunidle.jpg)
 

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Atomic Era Issues:

Bazooka: (http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/a/ac/Civ5_bazookaidle.jpg/600px-Civ5_bazookaidle.jpg) recolored to the standard uniform color (same as infantry)

The game's normal Bazooka unit already has colors quite similar to the recolored Infantry unit. In keeping with my "go big or go home" approach to modding, I don't see enough to change to make it worth the effort.

Use the generic tank destroyer but repaint it to a more forest green color and add an aztec symbol on the side

Which one?

Marine: The generic US marines are actually the same uniform that the standard Mexican soldier wore during the Atomic era. The only real reskin you need for them is to change their helmets to a darker shade of green

See my comment about the Bazooka.

Generic v3 Paratrooper comes in both a green and tan uniform. Which do you prefer?



Again, we need to decide what symbol to use for all WW1 and later units.

There is a P-47 Thunderbolt model in the USA WW2 pack. Looks like this:

upload_2020-11-5_5-39-6.jpeg
 
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Atomic Era Issues:



The game's normal Bazooka unit already has colors quite similar to the recolored Infantry unit. In keeping with my "go big or go home" approach to modding, I don't see enough to change to make it worth the effort.

Hmmmm, well can you made a different bazooka unit that looks similar to Aztec Marine models? But with Bazookas

Which one?

Generic Tank Destoryer, unless you think that you can find a better unit model for it. Lemme know if you had anything else in mind and let me see, because I want to see my options (https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/upload_2020-10-31_11-51-37-jpeg.573722/)

See my comment about the Bazooka.

Generic v3 Paratrooper comes in both a green and tan uniform. Which do you prefer?

I prefer the green uniform


Again, we need to decide what symbol to use for all WW1 and later units.

There is a P-47 Thunderbolt model in the USA WW2 pack. Looks like this:

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Thats perfect! Just recolor it to look this (https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2009/1/4/32979.jpg)
 
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Which one?

Generic Tank Destoryer, unless you think that you can find a better unit model for it.

I've got the model. I don't know what Aztec symbols you want to use for land/sea units.


Thats perfect! Just recolor it to look this

I've just spent an hour making the unit look like this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxrvU5iUcAARpeQ.jpg


Using this symbol: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...zilopochtli_V.png/220px-Huitzilopochtli_V.png

It's quite a bit taller than wide. Most land vehicle ID markers tend to be more balanced, and lest ostentatious for camouflage considerations. I'll add it, but I'm not 100% how it's going to look. What I'm seeing on the early versions of the model is that the icon is so shrunken, that it's an illegible blob on the models even when zoomed in to the game's normal max.


Recolored how?

I wanted to know how you wanted the IS-2 and Tu-95 recolored?
 
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Atomic Era Issues:



The game's normal Bazooka unit already has colors quite similar to the recolored Infantry unit. In keeping with my "go big or go home" approach to modding, I don't see enough to change to make it worth the effort.

Well then see if you can make it closer looking to what the Marines do. I am unsure what to really do for the bazooka troopers, but please tell me if you have any ideas of your own

Which one?

In the generic models for tanks you showed me there is a model called Generic Tank Destroyer (or hunter, cant remember which). If you think that there is a better model, then please tell me because I want to see my ooptions

See my comment about the Bazooka.

Generic v3 Paratrooper comes in both a green and tan uniform. Which do you prefer?

Green


Again, we need to decide what symbol to use for all WW1 and later units.

There is a P-47 Thunderbolt model in the USA WW2 pack. Looks like this:

View attachment 574249

Here is the symbol I would like for all WW1 Units and Later units. Its a Christian Cross but of the design the aztecs used when they were converted by the Spanish (https://www.crosses-n-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2155-2.png)
 
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I've got the model. I don't know what Aztec symbols you want to use for land/sea units.




I've just spent an hour making the unit look like this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxrvU5iUcAARpeQ.jpg

Thanks! And for the unit symbols, use this (https://www.crosses-n-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2155-2.png)

Using this symbol: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...zilopochtli_V.png/220px-Huitzilopochtli_V.png

It's quite a bit taller than wide. Most land vehicle ID markers tend to be more balanced, and lest ostentatious for camouflage considerations. I'll add it, but I'm not 100% how it's going to look. What I'm seeing on the early versions of the model is that the icon is so shrunken, that it's an illegible blob on the models even when zoomed in to the game's normal max.

USE THIS ONE, its easier :D (https://www.crosses-n-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2155-2.png)


I wanted to know how you wanted the IS-2 and Tu-95 recolored?

Make them a darker shade of green (or camo if you feel it would fit better)
 

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Posts #16 - 23 are updated. All have the latest versions of the models (49 new models in total). The individual models have been tested for moving/combat, and all seem to be OK.

The Helicopter Gunship has a rather buggy attack animation, but that problem lies in the edited trigger file that came with the model. It all works, but it seems like the unit take a second or two longer than it should in initiating its attack.

I still need Aztec unit names for most of the units, especially post-Renaissance. I added 13 alternate custom civs who can use these units to the mod. The list is on the Description on Steam.

The mod has been published on Steam in a "friends only" visibility. You can download it and start testing it more in earnest and let me know what I missed. No one else outside my friends list can see/download the mod:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2279889240


I still plan on updating the unit icons (the pictures that show up in the Unit Panel UI - the lower-left part of the screen when a unit is selected), with more appropriate icons for a lot of the units. Not sure how many, probably in the 20-30 range. I'll add the new icons to the mod before we release it with a "public" visibility.

So, take a couple of days and drive it around, kick the tires a bit, and let me know what you're seeing. I'd like to go final on this early next week and get it off the burner. Am way behind on my other plans, as this one took so long to finish.

It's usually about this time that several of my collaborators in the past disappear, never to be heard from again. I'd appreciate it if you can help me get this thing completed properly, as I've invested over a week of work on it. Thanks
 
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Quick update: I am finished with the customized icons. Managed to find/make icons for all the units in the unit pack. Here's a quick look at what it looks like:

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Ran out of time today, but will put them in the mod tomorrow. They're not perfect, but for such a large project, I think they'll do just fine.

About all I have left to do now is to add the ancient GG, and possibly the ancient GA, and any changes you find. They it's about time to release publicly.

More tomorrow...

EDIT: Updated picture. GA and GG added.
 
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