Just wondering which styles people prefer for Babylon. I see pros and cons for both: Tall: Tradition --> Aesthetics --> Rationalism --> Freedom. Starting Tradition gives you a GP generation boost, in addition to your 50% faster GS rate. I would imagine here that you'd go Tradition, then first few Policies in Aesthetics, into Rationalism and then Freedom for the ideology. However, I think that the bonus GP from Tradition might not scale as well into late game as the extra science from Progress. Wide: Progress --> Piety --> Rationalism --> Order. I think this synergizes well with the second half of Babylon's UA - the 15% better buying power for buildings. Combine that with the +15% production for buildings in the Progress tree, and you have a fantastic infrastructure for generating science. Furthermore, you'll still have GS generation on scale with any other tradition Civ. Finally, on a map larger than Standard, the per-city bonuses from Progress give (in my opinion) higher rates of return than the strong capital bonuses of Tradition. What do y'all think?