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Bad City Placement

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall - Dawn of Civilization' started by Bair_the_Normal, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Bair_the_Normal

    Bair_the_Normal 全は禪

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    I want to see just how bad the AI can be at placing cities. Please post por favor.

    To get this started, lemme repost this England one.
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  2. Tomorrow's Dawn

    Tomorrow's Dawn Heroes Never Die

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    *cracks neck*

    From my latest American 3000BC start on SVN:



    I don't even know.



    Beijing, Nanjing & Wuzhou are primary offenders.
     
  3. jammerculture

    jammerculture Chieftain

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    monster greece...
     
  4. Arizael

    Arizael Chieftain

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    Sparta. As much as I like their history founding this city is simply plain stupid.
     
  5. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    America at the end of almost any game with 30+ cities in North America
     
  6. iOnlySignIn

    iOnlySignIn Prince$s

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    And yet it's often loaded with Wonders - Great Cothon, GLH, Colossus, Parthenon, you name it. Always makes me wonder (pun intended).

    It is also in a VERY defensible location.
     
  7. Bair_the_Normal

    Bair_the_Normal 全は禪

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    Just look.
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    The similarity is frightening.
     
  8. iOnlySignIn

    iOnlySignIn Prince$s

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    I tried letting AI China start in Luoyang, hoping that this will push all their city sites towards the coast, to no avail:



    And it seems AI Greece is affected with the 1-tile-from-coast virus as well:



    I suspect a major reason for this problem is that AI's city placement algorithm favoring Hills too much, and there are many Hills 1 tile away from Coast but very few Coastal Hills.

    How do we modify the AI here?
     
  9. Fresol

    Fresol Angry Halfling in Green

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    This gotta be the single worst city I've ever seen. :hammer2:
     
  11. strijder20

    strijder20 Wallowing in irony

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    Egypt loves spamming lovely desert cities around :yup: Maybe something has to be done about that.
     
  12. killerkebab

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    I know it is kinda unrelated, but why is that English city 'Bath'? It's on the wrong side of the river Severn!

    Cardiff, perhaps? :p
     
  13. Comrade Yeshi

    Comrade Yeshi Chieftain

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    Indeed! Lets have a bit of Welsh representation!!!
     
  14. Arizael

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    All true but there is one thing - Athens can do all of this just better. They rock especialy with Great cothon
     
  15. Comrade Yeshi

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    Excuse my lack of knowledge here but wouldnt adding more resources to the game improve the lot of some of the poorer cities? or would that cause issues with balance etc?
     
  16. AOS9001

    AOS9001 Slightly over 9000.

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    Yeah, human players could exploit that greatly.
     
  17. jammerculture

    jammerculture Chieftain

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    This is by far the worst Europe I've seen ever. Taken right before I rage quit a game that took forty minutes to load!


    boooooo
     

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  18. Tomorrow's Dawn

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    ^I feel you.

    Sometimes I think there should be an option to disband cities in your rising flip zone
    as a newborn civ. It would be really great to have, especially for Prussia & Arabia.
     
  19. iOnlySignIn

    iOnlySignIn Prince$s

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    Unfortunately, it is kind of the standard on 3000 BC, since Lyon and Milan spawn as Indies. Personally, I don't play Prussia unless I start as another civ (France or Germany) to make sure city placements are reasonable. Or I play RFCE++ instead. :p

    Leoreth, I feel that Marseilles should spawn as an Indie in the 3000 BC start (right before Roman spawn) instead of Milan and Lyon. Marseilles is IMO much more important than Lyon, or even Milan in ancient times. This will make 3000 BC start Europe look less trashy in modern times.
     
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    Ragnar loves these isolated mountain cities that would be better under Huayna don'tcha think?
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