I like and hate the new barbarians. Early challenge is great, however too much luck involved and sometimes no matter how good player you are you just get so much damage that it will be hard to recover. In my current game I found and attacked a barb camp at turn5. it immediately spawned a warrior, then an other one next turn, then an other 2 turns later, then slingers 3 of them.. maybe there was an other camp just next to this one I don't know. And these could even be horsemen. The spawn rate is too high (ok this was on very high difficulty) I was actually lucky because i got help from a city state, one of their warrior sacrificed himself to give me some time.. I sent my almost dead scout to scout a bit into uncharted territory and behold, an other barb camp and my 0 hp scout attacked it without hesitation.. it happened to me more than once, and this made me start this topic, I guess I'm not the only one who had this.