barbarian invasion by sea

[suspendinlight]

Anyone ever see the barbarians conduct a naval invasion? In my most recent game, there was an American city on a single-tile island near a larger island where there was a major barb city. Apparently, the barbs launched a naval invasion with a galley and a couple of longbowmen against the city. They must have used an amphibious assault as well or perhaps Roosevelt left it undefended. It was pretty surprising either way.

 

[r_rolo1]

First time I ever heard about a barb landing..... Are you sure that the ciy was captured ? And if it was captured, maybe it was by one of those nifty barb events ( check log ), instead of a naval landing?

 

[LemonJello]

Never seen it in IV, though I fuzzily remember in II or III that the barbs would land from galleys a lot.

 

[Supr49er]

Never seen it in IV, though I fuzzily remember in II or III that the barbs would land from galleys a lot.

I have also never experienced it. Maybe suspendinlight was playing with raging barbs?

No doubt, barbs did use sea landings pretty extensively in the older versions of Civ. Always made me wonder why the AI used them so sparingly.

 

[Kesshi]

Hello Everyone,

This isn't anything new; I see it a lot. My latest fun way to play Civ has been to play with me vs Barbarians. Recently I played on a Pangea map, where my Capitol and 1st city were founded on the eastern coast of the continent. The Barbarians started pouring in from the sea and land, sometimes both at the same time. They didn't use an amphibious assault against me, they just landed 1 space from town, and their attacking forces got killed by my garrison troops. (Thank god I cleared those forests!)

 

[suspendinlight]

It was not a random event. They just took their galley about 5 squares from their home city and took over the American city and razed it (it was size 1). Last I had seen, Roosevelt had a knight defending that city but since the barbs took it with two longbowmen, I image Roosevelt must have moved the knight out and stupidly left the city undefended.

 

[Carabodes]

Barbs do naval invasions from time to time, even when "raging barbs" is not chosen. I've had this happen to me in several games, as well as seen it happen to an AI.
In islands maps they're pretty regular, and not part of a random event.

 

[SlightlyMad]

Hello Everyone,

This isn't anything new; I see it a lot. My latest fun way to play Civ has been to play with me vs Barbarians. Recently I played on a Pangea map, where my Capitol and 1st city were founded on the eastern coast of the continent. The Barbarians started pouring in from the sea and land, sometimes both at the same time. They didn't use an amphibious assault against me, they just landed 1 space from town, and their attacking forces got killed by my garrison troops. (Thank god I cleared those forests!)

Oh wow, I never even thought of doing this, sounds like a pretty fun sandbox game. You just start a game out with no other players? Do you have to disable diplomatic victories and such? I imagine you'd have to really crank up the difficulty to make it challenging?

edit: Oooh, and have you tried spawning off vassal colonies in these games?

 

[Kesshi]

Oh wow, I never even thought of doing this, sounds like a pretty fun sandbox game. You just start a game out with no other players? Do you have to disable diplomatic victories and such? I imagine you'd have to really crank up the difficulty to make it challenging?

edit: Oooh, and have you tried spawning off vassal colonies in these games?

SlightlyMad,

Me vs the Raging Barbarians is a very fun game. I play with some basic rules to liven things up:

Only victory enabled is domination.
Size small or larger.
Always a land mass map (inland sea, pangea, or fantasy). I believe this gives me a disadvantage more than the barbarians.
No building the great wall (that's cheating!)
No building spies.

I play Monarch/Emperor on normal civ games (I'm about to try my first push into Immortal this weekend) and I usually play this type of a game on Monarch/Immortal. That's about a half to one level above normal play. I tried a Deity raging barbarian game last night as Montezuma (starts with hunting) and this is how I played my cards:

Turn 1 Moved one space west to found my capitol on a hill.
Turn 1 Sent my scout out scouting.
Turn 2 Started a Barracks
Turn 12 Hinduism has been founded in a distant land. Holy Barbarians!
Turn X (less than 20) I discovered Archery.
Turn X I changed from the partially built Barracks to a bowman.
Turn 25 A Barbarian archer approached my glorious empire.
Turn 25 Swapped city to full on production and started moving one of my 3 scouts (I popped 2) back towards the capital.

My closest scout missed making it back to the capital by ONE turn! And I was going to miss building an archer in the city by one turn, too! My scout's last move, in an act of desperation, was to a plains tile next to the barbarian archer in an attempt to lure it to attack my scout giving me that extra turn to build that archer in city on top of hills. But alas, my plan went over like a fart in church. The barbarians ignored my scout and took over my city.

Turn 30 You have been defeated!

Deity vs Barbarians is rough. I died on turn 30! Oh well, I learned something about the first 30 turns. (Build a Warrior first, THEN an archer.)

P.S. I've never thought about a colony. That seems like it wouldn't work all too well, however. If I recall correctly, you only receive 1/2 the bonus land for a domination victory. The barbarians would probably rip them apart, too, further exhausting the military I would need to produce. And it seems a bit like cheating in a "one player only" game.