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Be honest! Who currently still prefers Civ IV?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by kamex, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. kamex

    kamex Chieftain

    Sep 13, 2008
    I think I may atm. Maybe I'm just not 100% settled with 5 yet. :confused:
  2. Bei1052

    Bei1052 Chieftain

    Oct 5, 2008
    It just came out. Gotta' get used to it.

    ...But I'm not gonna' lie. I'm currently right in the middle of a game of Civ IV, so I'm gonna' finish that up before I really get into Civ IV.
  3. RD-BH

    RD-BH Human

    Mar 5, 2009
    Formerly: Missouri, USA
    Undecided, there are some problems to work out.
    The strategy ... I'm not feeling it yet.
  4. Jimbo30

    Jimbo30 Chieftain

    Nov 6, 2005
    Civ 4 was terribad beyond anything, even Civ 3 on release.

    Nothing has changed except your memory of events.
  5. Guardian_PL

    Guardian_PL Chieftain

    Nov 4, 2006
    signed with the OP. It's just that Civ5 feels like... Nothing special. But maybe I'll get used to Civ5 and start to like it. So far, it feels more like CivRev to me then Civ game... :sad:
  6. CyberTyrant

    CyberTyrant Formerly known as low

    Jun 19, 2002
    Wisconsin, USA
    Wayyy too early to call. I'll get back to you with a definitive answer in about... a year.
  7. starrywisdom

    starrywisdom Chieftain

    Jul 15, 2010
    Civ 4 had a ton of bugs at realease as well - anyone who bought Civ4 at the Steam sale(a few months ago) will have no ability to understand those events. There are a few design flaws I greatly disagree with(no animations or saving in multiplayer /doh) but overall its a superior game IMHO. Anyone looking for Civ4:BTS-2 is looking in the wrong place though.
  8. City Builder

    City Builder Complicated Complication

    Sep 25, 2006
    In your moms basement
    I prefer Civ IV still right now. There is a lack of information given to the player in Civ 5 and it makes the game very unenjoyable to have to play it on guess work.

    In all honesty, I think what is going to happen unless the game changes tremendously through patches, is that this Civ is going to be the red headed stepchild of the Civ franchise, and that's just a downright shame.
  9. Quueg

    Quueg Chieftain

    Apr 19, 2006
    I must confess that, so far, Civ V strikes me as having "console" written all over it. I'm not saying I don't like it, but it does "feel" like a console game to me.
  10. guczy

    guczy Chieftain

    Sep 23, 2008
    Civ 4...cause im Euro and dont have V yet :)
  11. sadris

    sadris Chieftain

    Aug 8, 2010
    I hate Civ 5, it seems way too simplistic. I'm more of a micro-manager and Civ 5 seems like its oriented towards 5 year olds.
  12. Aecursis

    Aecursis Chieftain

    Feb 14, 2007
    What? Can you elaborate?

    I've been away from some time and haven't had time to read up on Civ 5 very much. I was about to purchase the game with the sole purpose of playing online with some friends.
  13. Booshaka

    Booshaka Chieftain

    Sep 17, 2010
    I like Stratego better, nothing is ever good enough, I hate rainbows and puppies. change is bad.
  14. Slickshooter

    Slickshooter Chieftain

    Jul 5, 2008
    I actually just closed my Civ 5 demo and started playing Civ 4 again. Something about it is too overwhelming for me.
  15. Lord Tirian

    Lord Tirian Erratic Poster

    Nov 30, 2007
    Liverpool, UK
    Only CiV demo here... so YMMV, but: They feel very different:
    • Civ IV is a fully matured game with two expansion and a buttload of great mods
    • Civ V just came out and is a paradigm shift regarding the map and combat

    For now, I'll just treat them as different games, not as "upgrade" or anything - after all, you don't stop playing Civ because you're playing, let's say Mass Effect or Half-Life. But I am loving the hex map and 1upt already, it's making combat a lot more tactical than the stack of doom.

    Cheers, LT.
  16. volcano_head

    volcano_head Chieftain

    Sep 18, 2010
    I'm doing the demo. It's OK. civ4 is like a very old friend, I'm still a bit diffident with civ5. Potential is there though.

    I miss the slider, it feels really SLOW to change my empire.

    It feels like amuch slower game in general.
  17. MercuryP

    MercuryP Chieftain

    Sep 21, 2010
    Civ V has a lot more balance of ideas than Civ IV did, with things like excess happiness not being wasted but instead going to golden age, gold that is actually a very useful commodity, more elegant diplo victory, and et cetera.

    From a game design perspective, Civ V seems way better than Civ IV to me. Although there are some things that still need work, like a couple of things in the UI still being a little rusty and the overall feeling that you never have enough production to build anything. And then maybe I just need to get used to how slow everything plays. But other than balance and UI stuff (and maybe graphics, I still need to get used to them), I pretty much think every change they made from Civ IV to Civ V was a positive one.

    Removal of religions and "first to discover this tech gets this" bonuses, slower culture, increased importance of gold, social policies that make you choose but you don't lose anything you already have when you choose them, removal of cottage spam. These are positive changes in my opinion, so Civ V is poised to be better than Civ IV. And it seems like they took a lot of steps to further balance out the different types of victory, which I think adds strategic depth above and beyond what Civ IV had.
  18. snoochems

    snoochems Chieftain

    May 25, 2004
    Some of the comments here have me worried (haven't played it yet), but my fear was that Civ V will be a dumbed down, shallower, "consolised" version of Civ. And it is sounding like this is indeed the case.

    I trust the opinions of those on this site over the good/positive reviews in the media. I have trouble trusting "game site" reviews, as the reviewer is probably not a civ-fanatic like most of us are. In fact, they're probably console-game-players that go from one game to the next each day.
  19. boredatwork

    boredatwork Chieftain

    Mar 18, 2010
    Maps - Hexes > Squares
    Interface - Civ4 > Civ5
    Combat - Civ5 < Civ4 so far
    AI - too soon to say
    Overall - far too soon to say

    However I hated Civ4 Vanilla and it wasn't until the BTS improvements as well as discovery of the "sweet spot" of custom settings/difficulty/map type that I really got into it.

    ATM I see Civ5 with the potential to be the best game of the series - whether it's actually there yet or will take several XPs time will tell.

    BUT I do HATE the hundred clicks it takes to actually get into the game.

    And I hate not being able to rename units now that they actually live longer than 2 turns. (unless I just haven't discovered how to do it)
  20. Cybah

    Cybah Chieftain

    Jun 22, 2007
    Me. CiV rounds take too long. 1upf is annoying (for me). Research by population? lol. Using EVERY single unit to be able to end the round is just WTF. And the interface totally f*cks me up. Looks great like Battle for Middleearth, but is not comparable to the well done Civ4 Interface.

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