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Discussion in 'Civ3 - Succession Games' started by bed_head7, Oct 13, 2004.

  1. bed_head7

    bed_head7 Deity

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    No problem. This isn't terribly exciting right now. Let's just see how fast we can finish this up with no research.
     
  2. LulThyme

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    Ok im done.
    First I wasnt paying attention and I think I overplayed a turn.
    News : The once mighty Iroquois have been destroyed by a coalition of most of the other powers.
    Sumer and specially Portugal are getting mightier and mightier.
    Just before the end, Portugal declared war on the Dutch.
    While we shouldnt be afraid of a direct attack, by getting more cities they are increasing theyre leverage for the end game, which could be a while coming at current tech pace.

    To slightly help, I started selling techs to backwards civ, to help defend themselves a bit against Portugal, and to even further increase our economy.

    On the internal front, by building a few Colloseum and getting furs from America, I was able to reduce luxury rate to 0 with very few entertainers.
     
  3. bed_head7

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    Got it, but it will be a couple days.
     
  4. TimBentley

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  5. Hajime

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    My PC is down - using a Uni comp.

    Waiting on an RMA for the video card, and my backup GF2 Ti doesn't work.

    Sorry guys :(. Can't even post anything without a video card, y'know?

    I'm having the -worst- luck -ever- with PC's of late.
     
  6. bed_head7

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    Gifted all techs pretty quickly except for Mass Production, then that too once stupid Sumeria researched that instead of Flight. gpt is pretty up there, so we should not have problems with techs anyway.
     
  7. SJ Frank

    SJ Frank Spamalot Co-court

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    Okay, got it. Do we want to try planting any spies any time soon?
     
  8. bed_head7

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    Go ahead. I finished the intelligence agency during my turns, which I probably should have noted.
     
  9. SJ Frank

    SJ Frank Spamalot Co-court

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    Some body was complaining that this game wasn't exciting enough? How's getting sneak attacked sound to you? Exciting enough? Good, let's go.

    When I inherited the game, it was peaceful enough. I renewed the lux deal with the Portugues. We were giving them 2 luxuries for their 1 luxury plus some gpt which they could no longer afford, so I changed it to a 1-for-1 straight swap instead.

    I also decided to reinforce our island holdings a bit, as all of them are still defended by a single regular spear. So I woke up our transport and load 6 vet infantries into them.

    If both of these actions somehow contributed to the Portugues attacking us... well, someone else can load up the 1450 save and find out.

    Okay, so I was happily going along. Boring turns, you know. Then, during the 1455 inter-turn, I was informed that we lost our wine :eek: , and then we lost Leptis Magna :cringe: , and then a big stack of workers :aargh:

    Appearently, because both "show enemy moves" and "show friendly moves" were off, the Portugues had landed a transport load of troops last turn without me noticing them. Then this turn, they simple walked into a undefended city.

    Of course, this mean WAR!

    First, I signed every available civ into an alliance. We may not have the biggest army, but we do have the biggest bank roll, so I wanted to take advantage of that. The Dutch were already at war (they were at war with almost everybody already), so they are the only one left out of the alliance.

    And now that we're at war, we could "safely" plant spys. The first try succeeded. The Purple Menace had over 140 infantries and 57 frigates. That is a huge, and obsolete fleet.

    I then filled up 2 of our empty armies with infantry, and with help of the few artilleries that we had, destroyed the invaders and retook Leptis Magna. Wouldn't you know it, with our very first attack with our only elite:


    Yeah, that was an archer, against a redlined cav.

    Once our continent was cleared of invaders, and "show enemy moves" was turn on :p , I knew that we were safe from attacks. It's time to make the Portugues pay for their sneak attack. In keeping with spirit of the game, I didn't want to attack their mainland. However there were some island holding of theirs that looks juicy, that were either putting culture pressure on our cities or sharing an island with our cities. I think we could take those.

    To these ends, I turn up the military production. Along with a bunch of short-rushing, produced a nice fleet of ships and a few more infantries and artilleries.

    Mean while, the Portugues continued to land units on our mainland as well as Nora, one of our island cities. I was able to get units into Nora in time (remember that transport I sent out on the first turn), and always attacked the invading cavs (defending produces WW, which we could do without).

    With the new ships, our navy had gained dominence over our coastal waters, with our battleships (2), destroyers (many), MoW's (many, and gaining), and 2 subs (neat toys, they are) blowing their frigate out of the water.

    By turn 7, 1485 AD, the turn that our Pentagon finished, I was able to land 3 full infantries armies and 9 artilleries onto the 2-city island to our south. 2 turns later, we took Launda, which had quite a few defenders due to a loaded transport in its docks. On 1500 AD, turn 10, we took Oea and the whole island.

    Through out my turns, I continued to build peace time buildings in the cities that needs them, since there were enough cities on wealth to take care of our military need.

    As I hand the game off, we have a nice huge fleet to the south. Our armies needs a bit of healing. There is a Portugues battleship near our coast, I have left enough ships still active for the next leader to deal with it (there are also ships fortified in London). There are also a lot of deals due next turn, including most of our luxury deal, so don't forget to renew those. The Summerians have a monopoly on Amphibious, and that's it for the AI's tech progress. Our alliance will run through the next leaders' turns, so have fun :goodjob:
     
  10. bed_head7

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    Looks like you handled it all very well. Unfortunately, this means we might never get our ship off the ground. Or at least not any time soon. Let's take advantage of our ships that can bombard and see how many MoWs we can add to the fleet.

    And about that show enemy moves off and show friendly moves off, yeah, um, I don't know who did that. :mischief: They'll be dealt with harshly for not telling the next player about that.

    Hajime is up if his computer is operational, if not it is off to LulThyme who we'll switch with TimBentley.
     
  11. SJ Frank

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    After I played my turns, I then suddenly realized that I may have just killed our last chance for a quick finish. A little too late.

    Come to think of it though, knocking down Portugual a bit is the neccessary first step towards a histograph win :p
     
  12. LulThyme

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    Ohhh, so exciting!!
    :)
    Ill give Hajime another 24 hours or so, else I will take it.
     
  13. LulThyme

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    Got It yeah yeah
     
  14. LulThyme

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    That was fun.
    We switched to somewhat military production and went from weak to strong vs Portugal
    I took all the island holdings of Portugal, and then made Peace.
    Meanwhile, the AI coalition beat them up on the main continent, where Portugal lost all but one city up to now.
    I have now made peace with Portugal.
    We are now in the Modern Age, and Sumeria has Ecology to trade.
    I will let next person decide how to do the trading.
    We should be starting to think about some prebuilds, for Apollo and so on.
    Seems it wont be as long as we thought.
     
  15. bed_head7

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    Does that mean that you broke the alliances SJ Frank made?
     
  16. LulThyme

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    Hum, I didnt notice that...
    Everybody is still at war versus POrtugal so I assume yes...
     
  17. bed_head7

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    Well, let's be a bit more careful with our spending, then. Lump sum payments will have to do for all purchases. TimBentley is up, and will hopefully be able to pick it up tomorrow.
     
  18. TimBentley

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  19. SJ Frank

    SJ Frank Spamalot Co-court

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    I have downloaded the save and checked. We have indeed lost our rep :( . But no matter, we should have enough money to buy the entire modern age straight up :D

    @LulThyme: On the F4 diplomacy screen, there are 3 tabs to the right. The first tab displays the MPP's, RoP's and stuff, that's the one most people uses. But I usually use the last tab, which displays all the current active deals. It allows you to check all current deals very quickly by clicking through all the leader heads. That's how I avoid breaking deals.

    BTW, I think our next wonder pre-build should be for the UN. We can use the trick of switching between the palace and the BMed to always keep a healthy pre-build going. You know, the one where you swap an almost completed palace to a BMed, burning all but 400 shields, then swapping back to the palace immediately to continue accumulating shields.
     
  20. LulThyme

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    Well SJ I knew about the tabs, I just didnt know making peace would break the deal and so our reputation.
    I have never done many alliances, so Im glad I learned that.

    Can you explain more about that trick?
    Are you saying we prebuild the palace, and we are about to finish it, switch to BM and waste the extra shields?
     

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