MobBoss
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Manson should have gotten the death penalty. He didn't simply because of the legal timing concerning the suspension of the death penalty from 1972 to 1976.
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Manson should have gotten the death penalty. He didn't simply because of the legal timing concerning the suspension of the death penalty from 1972 to 1976.
How many people has he killed while in prison?
MobBoss
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Its entirely possible he had ordered the killings of some by his followers since it was found out he had access to a cell phone while in prison.
He was also known to deal in drugs while in as well. No idea of someone overdosed from drugs supplied from him or not.
If you are going to argue that Manson is some kind of upright citizen by all means go for it. As it is, he is nothing more than a murdering career criminal, totally unredeemable, and should have faced the death penalty long, long ago.
I'm saying that Manson is the kind of evil person you are speaking of and there is no real evidence that he has killed during his 45+ year stay.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
There are always exceptions to every rule.
And you've often indicated that 'no real evidence' doesn't necessarily equate to innocence. It simply indicates 'not proven'.
Do you think him ordering the death of someone while in prison outside the scope of his known behavior?
I'm sure it is possible.
Borachio
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Isn't it more likely that Manson is insane? He hasn't exactly acted in his own best interests.
MobBoss
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Probably insane by yours or my standards, but still mentally competent to grasp what he is doing and still does it.
I would say he is evil.
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Prisoners are typically less likely to be killed in prison then on the streets. You watch too many movies...
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...rison_is_it_safer_to_be_jailed_than_free.html
As I see it the harm reduction potential of moving someone from death row to life in suitably secure conditions is likely so minimal as to not be a useful argument in defense of the death penalty.
aelf
Ashen One
Darn. Better order the deaths of people we suspect of killing others right away, then.
gay_Aleks
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I wonder if there's any openings for electrical chair switch operators. By the looks of it, a busy season awaits them. Maybe if I check in the local union...
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I never argued less likely....I said its not uncommon, and it isn't.
As I pointed out, logically speaking the death penalty is actually currently an incentive to commit crimes, since even if you add the execution rate to that murder rate you still end up with a smaller chance of being killed than for a non-prisoner, and probably much smaller than the usual chances given to the sort of person who ends up on death row.
