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Discussion in 'Civ4Col - Strategy Articles' started by The_Dwarf, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. The_Dwarf

    The_Dwarf Chieftain

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    What is my Motivation to do this :

    Im a bit frustrated that so many people seem to hate the game. I think its great despite the small flaws that will have to be fixed in an upcoming patch.
    However the game is already very much fun and completely playable and most of the so called bugs, imbalances, broken concepts etc. result of severe misunderstandings of the game concepts.

    Well now I think saying to these people :'Just play better !' is a bit rude. Not everbody is an expert and there is nothing wrong with it. A causual gamer should have a decent chance to win at least on the lower difficulty settings.
    So I think some people might well appreciate this effort and I will be getting less frustrated on how the majority of the players gets almost everything wrong.
    Since Im not totally familiar with all concepts yet myself, I will update this on a regular base getting to the finer points later on and starting with what I think are the most severe errors keeping some of you from having fun.

    Chapter 1 : The most common misunderstandings of important game concepts

    - The Liberty Bells REF Myth :

    As for those of you who dont know what the REF is - its the expedition force of the King who will go for you when you declare independance.
    Now how is this related to liberty bells. Every time you produce liberty bells the King will eventually expand his REF. As far as I know (might be not 100% accurate because its nowhere explained officially) there are two factors which will have influence on the Kings decision to expand his REF. First is the absolute liberty bells you produce, that means there is a treshhold and if you go above it the REF will expand and the treshold will be set to some higher amount.The second factor is what amount of bells you are producing per turn, that means the AI checks per round on how many bells you produce and related on how many that is the REF will eventually expand.

    Now the concequences on the gameplay are huge as you might figured out yourself however what exactly are the consequences :

    Lets focus on the absolute liberty bells amount thing first.
    Since you have to get 50% of your people root for independance to be allowed declaring it you have to produce a given amount of liberty bells for each citizen no matter what. That means bigger is not necessarily better, if you have more towns and citizen the REF will be bigger as well. Thus you want to avoid building settlements in really crappy places, they dont help you that much but make your enemy stronger.
    So why is this a good feature ? You have much less disadvantages when playing a map with a lot of water where you cant build many settlements. Furthermore it allows for enourmous strategic freedom since you dont need to go for some brute force strategy as it was in Col1.

    Now lets come to the other aspect. Liberty bells per Turn cause the REF to expand. What does that mean for gameplay. Well if you produce liberty bells from the first turn on the REF will be bigger, that means you want to be really careful here. It is tempting to go for some fast founding father path but be aware that you have to make good use of the additional benefits to make it worth that the REF will be bigger later on.
    That said for the beginning you should probably stay away for this at least for the first 50 turns and produce no liberty bells at all. You might think there is a problem with that because another Nation will capture some founding fathers you wanted to have. Luckily there is a way around this, you can produce political points in your settlements - just switch from the building (e.g. docks) and look at the bottom there, you will find out how to do it.

    - Schools suck !

    Many people are getting pissed that schooling takes so long after you have trained a bunch of students. Well they are right, like in reallife schools suck in this game (A+ for realism :p ). However there is more to it. You have to think of it as a countermeasure for players getting everything easiely and make like dozens of farming cities shooting their population through the roof.
    So what is the consequence of that ? You cant train only so many students - huh I guess you figured out this yourself.

    But what exactly does it mean for your general approach on specialists that you can train only so many of them :

    You need to focus on schooling skills you cant get otherwise and which are really needed. So for Farmers and Fishers you generally have a bunch of native cities where you can train them. Use those instead of your schools.
    The more sophisticated specialits are generally not needed in huge numbers (e.g. elder statesman, firebrand preachers) . So to get them it is often enough to rely on what people you get at the european docks - of course that implies that you do build a bunch of churchs which you should most often.
    So what is left on the list are those kind of specialist that you need many of and cant get cheaply otherwise. Lets think about what this is.
    Master carpenters : An absolute must to have a lot of them, they are needed for making buildings, wagon trains, political points, cannons, ships and what not.
    Master Blacksmith : Again tools are needed for many buidlings, to make Muskets and Cannons - so you really need a bunch of them.
    That said you want to go for those and eventually expand on related things like expert ore minors or expert lumber jacks if you cant get them cheap otherwise.

    How can the natives be my friend, they always start suprise attacks on me :

    Well it depends, the different natives tend to behave very differntly. So on what should you be aware off. Montezuma and Huyana Capac are real pests like you might already experienced in Civ4. However here comes the good news, its more profitabel to run them over because you get extra gold when you capture their cities. For your gamestyle this means get rid of them rather sooner then later, you might want to wait a bit if they offer good training possibilities for your workers and other tribes dont have these skills available.

    Some tribes have the 'Mentor' ability which means you can train people there a lot faster. This is a huge advantage because it will take pressure of your school system, so in general you want to keep those kind of natives and dont piss them of.

    I found what is extremly bad for relationships between you and some indian tribe is if you steal their food (even if you pay on settling). So if you want to keep this tribe dont use their foodresources at all. What you can further do to strenghten relationshsips with natives is to trade with them, I guess it doesnt have to be a whole lot of things you trade to them but if you do trade at least some goods with them your relatiuonsship will be getting better over time eventually.

    The I can fight the Kings forces only in the open Myth :

    Many people claim that you have to retreat out of your cities and let the King capture them. After that you counterattack the troops.
    Well I guess that impression comes from the very strong artillery the Kings has. If you wouldnt know yet those artillery has a huge Bonus when attacking cities.
    However it turns out that this locig is totally flawed. The first thing is you can take major influence by what units you build on the composition of the Kings forces. The second thing is some spots are better for defending than others.

    So what should you do if you plan for a defensiv war against the King :

    First thing is that you have to use some key spot where his troops need to go along and found a settlement with good defensiv protectives there. Good for defensive is if you can build behind a river or on a hill and thats exactly what you should do if you plan to fight defensive.
    The second thing is you obviously dont want the King to have many artillery because your defense against those in cities is rather bad regardless how good your city spot is.
    It turns out that the King tends to build the counter unit on what you have the most exessfully. So what you can do is for example build cannons only and dont much else and the King will react by building many mounted units. That doesnt mean you have to fight with cannons vs Cav however since you can recruit a decent amount of soldiers after
    you declared independance.
    Another aspect are the founding fathers, you want to get those which are useful in the context, that is for example the guy who gives +25% defense for all cities. Another good one is the one who gives you free unit promotions for city defense.
     
  2. The_Dwarf

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    Chapter 2 : Getting started

    Choosing your leader :

    You might want to choose a leader that makes your life easier here. I think for the first games you want to go for someone who has many options available so that you are more free on which path you will go in the game. If you dont have a favourit already I advocate taking George Washington. The combined bonusses for economy (getting more people) and military (getting cheaper soldiers) makes him very flexible in almost all game situations.

    Now that you have choosen your leader you will find yourself on the main map and a ship with some soldiers and pioniers loaded at the beginning so what are you gonna do now. You need to have a look at the marked ocean part which lets you sail to europe first. If that section is not symmetrical it is because there is no land in one direction and you want to make sure that you arent going that way. So if more parts of the marked Ocean area are lying to the North you want to go South West and visa versa.

    Foundaition of the first settlement :

    For your prospects the place where you settle takes quite a bit of influence so you should think this through carefully. If you have played Col1 then you might noticed that settle on the first tile of land you see was a pretty good strategy in those times since you had to play a brute force approach and loosing turns by sailing around was not appropriate, let me tell you this Civ4Col is totally different !
    The placing of your cities is very important here. Even more since you cant disband them. So if land comes insight and the place seems rather ugly dont settle there, you can afford some turns to find a better place. If you are in the very north or south of the map go ahead and sail a bit towards the middle, the reason behind this is that at the poles there is most likely way too much Tundra to get decent places for settlements.If you hit a small island dont bother to settle there its absolutely not worth it.

    So how does a good place to settle look like. Food is most important, you should either have at least one tile of fish/crabs or wheat. If you find a river thats fine also since river fields have a bonus on food production. Furthermore a location that is not located on a hill is far superior for your starting city because the ore you get from your main city tile on a hill city is quite useless while getting soemthing like cotton for free is much more interesting. As far as concerning other recources you might take whatever you can get, however for your first city a good location for growth should be the priority.

    One thing you should take into account is that natives let you settle for free with your first settlement. Thus you can settle right next to them if thats the only decent location you can find. However be aware that you might need to destroy those natives later if you settle very close. If thats not your game plane (e.g. you play as the French) then you might want to reconsider.

    After you have placed your first settlement :

    What you should do now is to explore the new world quite fast. This has some major advantages. You can get a basic game plan very early if you know what you have to deal with. The Native villages often give you some gold if you visit them - that is if no other nation has visited them yet. So this is kind of a race and you dont want to be the looser here.
    You might get lucky and visit a nearby Indian settlement which offers farmers or Fishers thats of course pretty nice if you have wheat or fish respectively available.
    So for your first visit with your ship in Europe you should make sure you can get either a specialist scout or 50 Horses. That means you have to sell tools or muskets if the price is 2/3 and no scout is available. That said you should make sure what the price for horses is before you sail back to europe. Note that you can trade with coastal nativ villages which offer often very good prices for selling tools/muskets or buying things like cotton or tobacco. You do that buy Sailing with your ship onto the village square and press the trade button.
    However I dont recommend selling your muskets to the natives in general that might very well backfire on you.
    While scouting be aware of the difference between Ancient ruins and burial grounds, if you go for burial grounds that might make the natives angry and you dont want to ruin your relations with them from start in general, so go for the ruins and leave the burial grounds alone for now.

    Meeting the other nations early :

    If the AIs settle very close to you things are a little bit odd. For the beginning I would say just start a new game if the situation is too absurd rather than fighting them down which is the other viable option. You dont need to fear that you loose though if you prepare the assault well because the AIs seem to be tremendously week at that point.
    What you can do to get less annoyed by them is catching their ship in the harbour - it will be destroyed and it will take a while until they get a new ship.

    Chapter 3 : The early game

    Population growth :

    So now we have build our first settlement scouted a decent bit and have made some money by exploring and selling some goods in europe. What are the next steps. Priority now should be population growth. There are different ways to achieve this. If you have a starting city with more than one special food resource you might want to train some farmers/fishers at the natives. With specialists on the food tiles cities will grow very fast. Another option is to build a church early on, that is esspecially valuable if you have a preacher specialist available. The advantage of this method is that you get more specialist early on and will have less problems with schooling your people later in general. A third approach is to establish some missions early on, obviously this is pretty good if you play either the french or are lucky enough to have some jesuit missionary available. Another more evil approach is to attack enemy euro nations nearby and steal their population. If you have Inca or Aztec beside you can use this with indians also because some of there settlements will give you a converted native after being destroyed, this tactic is especially good when playing spain because you start with a veteran soldier, you get more treasures from destroying native villages and in the case of Juan de San Martin your Units will promote faster. So you have some decent options available here make sure you use at least one of them.

    Getting a game plan :

    The next step should be to look at your continent a bit closer, which are the places I want to build cities on - are they occupied by natives ? So at first you should go for those sites that are very good, e.g. river with some special resources and hills/mountain. Preferably those spots are not that close to a native village. Of course those sites are pretty rare, now you need to get some idea on how you want to play. Are too many good spots occupied by native villages - than its maybe time to get some military rolling. Are enough spots available for free ? Than it might be time to get some trade going with the Indians and strengthen your relations with them.
    Regardless on what you do you should have a plan on how to play in general relativly early even more so you have to choose some founding fathers very early. If you choose the wrong FFs for a strategy that turns out to be not your favourit later anymore you might be somewhat doomed.

    So the founding fathers are pretty important for which should you go ?

    In general you want to be flexibel here, different conditions require different founding fathers. For example the guy who gives 3 Jesuit missionars seems pretty poor in general however when playing the French he might actually pretty useful. I think many people are way too locked in what they tend to go for, e.g. always Peter Minuit. This is not how you play successful in a game that needs a lot of adaption every time you play it. However there is one exception to this, political founding fathers are kind of less valuable in the beginning because your bottleneck will almost always be political points. So the price for the other categories is relatively compared way cheaper. Of course there might be situations where you want to get one of those early on anyway but in general you should root for the other categories first.

    Getting the ball rolling on specialist training at the native villages :

    So now that you have a basic idea on what you want to do its time to make use of the Indian settlement train possibilities for your people. The earlier you start with it the better it is because the rate at which your people learn from the natives will slow down after you have trained several in the same native village. As already said the Native 'Mentor' ability is your friend here. Native settlements with 'mentor' and a skill that is needed alot like fishing,farming,mining is worth a lot here. If a skill is not available in the closer location you might want to start an expedition to sail for some far away natives and start some training there. The point why this native training is so important is that it takes pressure from your schools away which will make those much more effective.

    Infrastructur :

    As for schools you should probably thinking of getting one and train some Master Carpenters to get buildings up fast everywhere. To get your infrastructure going you might want to get a Hardy Pioneer now if you dont already have one and build some streets so that the goods produced in your inland villages can easier be transported in Wagon trains to your coastal cities. That said tile improvement is way less important than in Civ4 where it had such an ernomous effect.
     
  3. The_Dwarf

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    Chapter 4 : Economy

    Its always nice to have money so how can you maximize your profits now that you have some decent sized cities. There are two key concepts, first is you should specialize your cities a bit, it doesnt make much sense to make everything everywhere. So if you got a city with two special cotton tiles make this your cloth factory. In order to do this get the appropriate buildings which enhance the production and make sure that you have specialist working everywhere.
    The seond important concept here is to have a little diversification, 3 Cigar producing citys will get less effective after a while because the prices will eventually start to fall on the european market, that said with Dutch leaders you got some additional possibilities here. However if you arent playing for the Dutch try to have one producing city for each Rum,Cigars,Cloth and Coats instead of having many for one of these goods. Often this wont be possible but you dont really have to bother that much. You need only so much money to get things starting as soon as your colonies are getting more independent you dont need as much money anymore. If you are lucky enough to get some silver mining opportunity, thats nice and should be used. Note that native worker bonus for silver mining is quite huge so if you got no expert silver miner available you should assign a native there if possible.
    As you can see in the comments below some people disagree on how to set this up best and they have some valid points. The important thing is another one though, do have a plan on where you produce what and dont produce everything everywhere.

    What can you do further to enhance cash - get Peter Minuit as Founding Father. Things at the european docks will be way cheaper to buy with him in your congress so if you plan to use trade extensivly you should get him. Note that you can make a decent profit trading with the natives also, this has the further advantage that relations with them are getting better over time.

    All in all you generally should not focus too much on trade only, neglecting to build cities which will become your musket/artillery Factories is a major mistake if you arent on some special strategy. So if you have the choice between getting a decent city for making trade goods and getting a city for producing weapons you should almost always go for improving your military power, that is if you already have some places where you are producing goods.

    Chapter 5 : Preparing for independance

    After settling your continent and improving your cities a bit it will be time to start preparing for independance. To declare independance you need to have 50% of your population rooting for it. However be aware that all your soldiers count as king loyalists. So now its time to start producing a decent amount of liberty bells in your citys. You should stop population growth a bit at this time because each new born citizen will be a royalist as well, so if you keep getting too much new citizens you will be slowed down pretty hard in going for independance. The Error many people often make here is to not stop population growth and assign new citizens to their army - dont do this it will take you for ever to get the 50% like this.

    So what are good ways to get liberty bell producion going ?

    Some specialist will help here no doubt, so if you havent a few elder statesman available yet you probably should buy at least 2 or 3 in europe. Buildings help alot also, you should make sure that you are building printing press and Newspaper at least in your bigger cities. Now it might be a good time to look for some founding father who improves liberty bells production, you will find most of those in the political area of the FF screen. Well now you have done all this but still struggle, dont despair there are still ways to help you here. You might consider disbanding some of your non loayal citizens like for example pioneers if you have improved your land a decent bit already, if that doesnt help enough look for your cities with low rebel sentiment and disband some citizens there.

    Preparing for the assault :

    The rebel sentiment in your cities is growing now, however are you prepared to fight yet - make sure you have at least one city that is specialised on musket/artillery production. Those kind of cities should not be at the east cost because its pretty hard to defend those cities. The reason for this is that the Kings Fleet is pretty strong and it will bombard your coastal cities. Thus you should be prepared on giving up those cities at least for some time, the place you want to put up the fight is somewhere inland prefereably on terrain that gives you bonusses like hills, mountains and forests.
    So back to preparing for that war, since horses are relatively cheap to buy you dont really have to bother much breeding them yourself unless you get lucky and get some expert rangers for free. That means you want to have a decent amount of storage capiticity for both your horses and your muskets. building some warehouses helps here, furthermore you should build some additional wagon trains if you dont have many yet to increase storage capacity.
    By now you should have a plan where and how to fight the kings forces, if you want to fight in the open get a lot of horses and dont bother with getting soldiers too much, Dragoons are much better in the open in general. If you want to fight more defensiv make sure you get some infantery to defend.
     
  4. The_Dwarf

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    Chapter 6 : The independance war

    Well I think I dont want to go into more detail as I already did in the above here because that might steel the fun for you on developing strategies on how to beat that pesky King the most effectiv. Just a few words which troops are good in general for what purpose.
    Soldiers : Defending Cities
    Dragoons : Fighting in the open
    Cannons : Attacking Cities

    I hope you can enjoy the game now as much as I do :)
     
  5. woodelf

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    A good starting guide Dwarf. :thumbsup:
     
  6. pvt chaos

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    Indeed, nice work and definitely a valuable thing for new players. Also good idea to start with the myths / game concepts chapter as most new users are having problems with that. Keep up the good work and if you need any help ...

    To Mod : possible sticky ?
     
  7. grapes

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    Really helpful starting guide, especially the info on founding fathers I found I was taking everyone which came my way now I realise I have to be more selective.
     
  8. Yeekim

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    Something that took a while for me to grasp:

    City specialization
    You really need only two types of cities: manufacturing cities (cities of Masters) and raw material producing cities (cities of Experts). The first type is where you start by building lumber mill and where you place all your industry, schools and churches. One or two is enough. These are best placed inland so it is easier to defend them.
    The second type gets only warehouse and will then start making points. Raw material producing specialists need no buildings to be effective, and everything they scrape together will be sent into your metropolises.
     
  9. The_Dwarf

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    I kind of disagree on that, mainly because the transport/trade network system is so awkwarded and if you do it like this micromanagment will be a pain.
     
  10. Yeekim

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    Sure, you'll have to mess with wagon trains quite a lot. But there are Civ players who are obsessed with micromanagement, wanting to save every hammer and beaker possible, so I'm sure many won't mind, as this is not quite as extreme.
    But building lumbermills and manufacturing buildings everywhere is just waste of hammers.
     
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    What Yeekim said is exactly what i do too. A couple of big manufactoring cities inland and everything else producing points and pumping out raw materials. I do try to buid a shipyard on the coast though.

    I can see that the auto-transport system will require some tweaking, but i have been able to use it fairly well and i hate micromanagement.

    If you use all your wagons to "Fully Automated" it works well as long as your orders are setup correctly. Correctly isn't the term, since the game doesn't really make a lot of sense in telling you how to set it up, but it is doable.

    One of the keys to make it work is to have both "Export" and "Import" enabled and use the "Keep" number to actually have the units you need. Another key is that you need to set the cities that produce resources to other cities set as a number that is lower then the maximum content of it's warehouse.

    For instance. You have a hub city that produces guns. That city as an upgraded warehouse (in normal max 300 units) if you set guns on this city to "Keep 300" it won't move the units that go above 300 as you might think because they will be imediatly sold to Europe at 50%. So the key is to have this city set to "Keep 200" or "Keep 100"(i find it works better if you use round numbers the wagons seem to like picking up 50s) and then set the cities that you want to spread the guns to "Keep 300" in case they have an upgraded warehouse too if they don't "Keep 100" or "Keep 200" works too. Just make sure you always have both import and export enabled.

    This way i can usually never touch a wagon train, except the one i use to trade with natives. For example i don't produce horses at all i just buy them from Europe so i usually have a coastal province set to "Keep 100" horses and all other cities in the continent set to "Keep 300" then i came and dump 300 horses on the first city and they automatically get sent down the road to every city that doesn't have 300 yet. Very easy to max guns and horses in every city without ever touching it manually if you do it this way. :cool:

    Another thought i think would fit well in a begginer guide is the relantionship with money. In this game money is a very different then in Civ4. You don't have any upkeep to pay at all, you can play the game with 0 money if you have to. So, some tips to dealing with money. First reinvest imediately. If you have money chances are the king will ask for a cut. If you have 30k he might ask for 25k. But if you only have 2k he might ask for 1k or 500. So try to always invest the money you have in things that you need. When in doupt buy cannons or if you are really rich warships.

    Think of money as not bellonging to you. It bellongs to the king, but you are the one that controls how it is invested. The king can withdraw though, so it is important that you keep that money invested at all times. When you get a bunch of money from natives don't wait for a ship to reach Europe to invest the money back, go to Europe imediatly and buy what you need. Don't cash in 30k worth of treasure if you don't need anything. Keep them stored untill you do need to buy something.

    The second tip i'd give is how to deal with the king. Apparently the king will increase taxes on you the more you say no to him. What i think works well is to always say yes untill you are ready to say no. Once you say no once then don't say yes again. You are then set on a downfall that will end with you asking for independance.

    By always saying yes to every request i have managed to keep taxes to manageables 20-30s untill i was ready to tell him to buzz off. After you start saying no to him taxes skyrocket and i've seen him go as high as 60-70 before i'm revolting. Though by that point it doesn't matter since i'm not selling anything to him anymore i'm only producing for the war effort.

    The relantioship with money also might make you think that when you declare independance you are screwed because you don't have anyone to sell to. You need to get out of that mentality of maintenance. There is no maintenance. Fully mobilize your work force you don't need money at all one you set your mind to independance.

    The third tip i find usefull is when you are ready to make that final push to 50% rebel sentiment, have your cities set to "not grow". New colonists are always Tories and it helps if your cities aren't spawning two Tories a turn in the end game. By then you have more then enough people to man your guns anyways.

    Last but not least, standing army. Huh? I keep seeing people use that word and i don't really understand. Why would you want a soldier to NOT be working the fields or crafting something? Hell he even will take up arms automatically if attacked, why would you want to leave him mobilized? Just keep everybody working intill the DoI THEN you mobilize EVERYONE, well, not everyone just as many as you have guns for. :lol:
     
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    Great job, the Dwarf! :goodjob:
    This guide will benefit every beginner and even some more advanced players. :)
     
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    Well here is another tip:
    Navies: Although you might consider that your Sips of the Line totally ineffective against Man'O'Wars usualy it takes 2-3 SoL to get one. So you might think there is no point in buying/building your navy. But there is two advantages:
    1st - Every ship that you destroy means that the waves of REF become smaller. (But do remember how many turns left to finish)
    2nd - If you be able to kill all of REF navy all of the forces in Europe don't count.

    That how I won my first game REF was 150/90/50/9, so when I whiped REF navy they still had more then 200 units in Europe:trophy::trophy::trophy:
     
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    Thanks for the tips! As I was never lucky enough to play the original, this will be a great help for me to get used to the interface.
     
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    It should be noted that should you choose to make a raw matieral city on the coast, specifically food, you would want to build more. The docks, drydocks, and shipyards give you +1 food per square each, for a maximum of +3 per square. If you manage to find a spot with 5 - 7 water squares and there's fish and crabs around, you may want to consider making it a population growth center. And even then it's minimal to build those, make a lumber mill, and truck in lumber and tools to get them built.
     
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  17. Tickles

    Tickles Chieftain

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    How do you build up an army when you're preparing for independence if you need to slow down production of new colonists?
     
  18. The_Dwarf

    The_Dwarf Chieftain

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    Thats actually what many players have problems with. You need to build up the main part of your army after you declared independance. That means you need to store a lot of weapons and horses. Denying slavery then helps alot because you get two citizens per town which you usally want to make all soldiers or dragoons with.
    That said you can build a bunch of cannons before declaring independance without faering the REF gets bigger because it doesnt scale to that.
     
  19. Yeekim

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    Yeah, I meant 1-2 manufacturing cities. Raw material ones you'll need more, probably with ratio ~1:3.

    Actually, I'm pretty sure that default (i.e with no buildings) is 1 food. Dock gives +2 and Drydocks and Shipyards give nothing (they just let to build more advanced units).

    Sure, but you'd need only Dock actually. And this is so fast build that Lumber Mill is not really necessary.
     
  20. KJIOYH

    KJIOYH Chieftain

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    Very nice guide!

    I would like to add some things. Maybe it will be helpfull ;)

    1) Settling part.

    1.1 Check whats up in european recruitment. (The 3 random guys). It is better to buy one right away so the king doesnt get the chance to ask for your gold and possibly screw you up big time.
    If theres a Scout - he is 1st priority. Treasures and talking to villages gives huge amounts of money. Scouting also gives you very important information - locations of other nations, places to settle, what villages can teach. When you come back the first time it might be better to buy as many colonists as you can looking for a scout, while leaving enough horses to equip someone else if he cant be found. In rare occasions of the first village being able to train seasoned scouts, it might be better to train one of the 2 default colonists to scout and just buy him horses. If theres no scout then wait till you settle.

    1.2 Sailing for earth. Geometry advices where to sail. I find it better to sail in diagonal style \ then /.

    1.3 Settleing. It is important to create first city asap as you will want to return for a scout.

    Ideally you want to sail right into a village, talk with one guy and try to buy some goods if you profit. Coastal villages are almost always sitting in best locations, and its nice to settle right beside it because you will a) save time settling 1st city b) save time running to train to train c) save time trading early game c) natives will destroy the village and bugger off eventually if you want it.

    If you dont see villages then drop settlers as far from each other as possible w/o moving the ship aka 1 tile inbetween. You should see some villages now. If they are close then go talk first. If 1 is close go talk and settle city nearby. If you see two good spots nearby - settle two cities then. Remember - natives let you settle first city within their cultural borders so settle it first, if you cant settler the second one in a good spot out of their borders dont settle it then and go talk, work the land or train in the village.

    If you settle with the soldier near the village then grab his guns and sell them to the village, then buy some goods and buy some stuff in europe for the rest. You want to buy as many colonists as your ship allows and equip em with guns/horses (to sell to natives).

    If you have normal pioneer in your city and village teaches something usefull, then leave his tools and go train. If you have specialist pioneer then send the soldier to train.

    2) Evaluating information and planning.

    2.1 Natives. You got to decide what to do with natives - Early game you want to keep peace and expand anyway, but you might want to eliminate them later and start planning now.

    If theres fisherman/farmer nearby - go for early food spamming and emphisizing School/college. Try to buy Preacher and Statesmen soon so you can teach them. Look for good spots for cities with some food and settle there, sending fishermen/farmers there and later turn them into specialized cities. The disadv. of food cities is that they are slower in the beginning but dont raise taxes and get more usefull when prices for recruitement in europe raise, besides you dont depend on europe on all your recruitment and free the ship a bit as you wont need to carry people who got born. Try to build enough wagons to carry food.
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    More later if anyone wants it lol.
     

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