On the vein of the Felix smbc cómic link, there was this professor of the history of fascism at UC Berkeley that lived through it. It seemed like if you were enfranchised and on the inside of that system, it felt really good. Similarly, I think to mouthwash posting that link about how the commanches were a very happy bunch, just horrible to those outside. I worry about the answer to this question. Cleary expressing yourself and being “savage” is a very enriching way to live. We definitely want to have a system includes as much savageness (not savagery) as we can get away with while providing goodness thru civilization. Being savage is like saying “hit me” in blackjack so if the system is promoting holding at 12, the system is too civilized. If the system is saying “hit me” at 19 it’s too savage there’s only a 1/6 (loosely) chance you won’t go bust.