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Best Metro Systems

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by hobbsyoyo, Dec 4, 2019.

  1. EnglishEdward

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    Quite. And this is the case with HS2 in England. It is unpopular. Hopefuly it will get cancelled.
     
  2. uppi

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    Well, it does not look like there would be any worthwhile stops which could be added. Why do you hope it gets cancelled? Purely egoistical reasons?
     
  3. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    I commute to work each day by bus and it is quite a bit more than a few blocks, 20 minutes from Minneapolis by highway.
     
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  4. Birdjaguar

    Birdjaguar Hanafubuki Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Bus commutes can be just fine; I was referring to long distance travel. I once had a job where I cold commute by city bus and it was pretty nice.
     
  5. EnglishEdward

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    There are various reasons.

    It is a prestige project based on a phoney business case that an impoverished
    UK can not afford and diverts resources from many more worthwhile projects.

    It would be better to spend the money on more effectively linking up northern cities
    at normal speed rail, and on the civil engineering needed to deal with preventing
    and managing the consequences of flooding arising from climate change
     
  6. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    The metro here has been a project for well over a decade, and supposedly it is nearing completion. That said, it doesn't make that much sense, at least in the actual city center - given three stops there are 5 min by walking, from each other...
    It will be very useful when it links the major suburbs, though.

    Something cool is that a load of ancient stuff were unearthed during the station excavation.





     
  7. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    Plus you can drink on the Hull ferry.
     
  8. rah

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    You can drink on Chicago Metra trains except during special events.
    In the old days they used to serve it on the Train.
     
  9. hobbsyoyo

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    Here's a video I just watched on the hurdles to high speed rail (and passenger rail in general) in the US.
     
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    High speed rail is fabulous and as said in the video it is opposed by both auto and airline industries as well as the oil industry.
     
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  11. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    I've been on both, and Tokyo's is like 20,000x better. Is New York's metro system really thought of that highly? I found some of the stations really sketchy, there were weirdos riding on the cars, people walking up and down singing, asking for money.. I didn't find the system that comprehensive - it doesn't even run to one of the major airports.. The stations were dirty.. Some lines don't run that frequently.. It isn't integrated very well with New Jersey's transit system..

    I'm not knocking New York's system, on its own it really is not so bad. But compared to Tokyo's it is .. a word I can't repeat here
     
  12. EgonSpengler

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    It's like night and day. Of course a lot of Americans have no metro system at all, but even those of us in cities that have subways may not realize that ours suck until we visit other countries.
     
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  13. yung.carl.jung

    yung.carl.jung Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious

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    wait, but those things are good. the spirit of trainstation. it's just a mandatory part of the experience of urban travel. trainstations that are too clean kind of weird me out.

    also, I'd probably much prefer this over being groped in bright daylight if I was a woman. happened to my girlfriend thrice on the tokyo sub. hell, I even know a guy who got groped.
     
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  14. rah

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    Are you claiming that no one ever gets groped on the NY metro system?
     
  15. Commodore

    Commodore Technology of Peace

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    Apparently this is a much more common problem in Japan though. So much so, there is even a whole category of fetish porn based around it in Japan.
     
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  16. rah

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    I just think New Yorkers just ignore it.
    It's been on the uprise in Chicago, but I think it's more due to awareness.
     
  17. hobbsyoyo

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    I've also read that Japan has especially bad gropers and leerers on many threads in Reddit. I have no other sources for that, but they all say it's worse in this specific metric than anywhere in the US by a large margin.
     
  18. warpus

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    I don't know how big of a problem it is these days, but I do believe they have been trying hard to crack down on behaviour like that. There are now women-only cars on the subways that operate during rush hour and from what I understand it's now not nearly as big of a problem as it used to be.. but it is a problem nevertheless.

    I think it's important to note though that this does not speak to the quality of the metro system.. but rather the moral character of some of the people who use it
     
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  19. yung.carl.jung

    yung.carl.jung Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious

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    yeah @warpus is right they're slowly cracking down on it. the problem was that this sort of behavior wasn't really stigmatized much nor recognized as a legit criminal offense (though it is probably punishable by law), men just got away with it. but it's changing. same with a lot of stuff like women refusing to constantly wear high heels on the job. japanese patriarchy is a *****.
     
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  20. rah

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    They just recently made a big deal about arresting some guy in Chicago for it.
    Hoping that it will raise awareness.
     
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