I'm planning on starting an immortal game with Sweden. I have thought many possible openings, since Sweden is quite flexible and can do many things. I usually open my games with tradition and tend to make only those four cities that get the bonuses from tradition. Sometimes I found fifth and sixth city later in the game, I rarely go wide. I started thinking about getting a GG from honor policy tree and gifting that to a CS. Could that be a strong decision in any way, or will the rising cultural cost for policies negate the benefits? And what would be optimal CS to gift that GG? To make even more bizzare opening, how about going piety after that and gifting that GG to a religious CS for more faith and hope for the Dance of the Aurora pantheon still be available at that point and gaining even more faith and getting the Glory of God reformation and having a nice synergy with the UA. There's many ifs and buts in that scenario, but it could be pretty strong. Getting faith only from CS will save some turns for not having to build shrine in the beginning and getting a worker instead and getting a better city slighty faster. Other thing I was wondering is going liberty and getting a free great prophet from the finisher, completely ignoring religion before that. In this scenario getting a reformation belief is more tricky since it takes 6 policies to liberty instead of 2 to honor. But on the other hand full liberty is much better than couple of honor policies. Or is it better to beeline to theology and build HS with GE that I would get from liberty? One main reason for trying out Sweden is that i have played MANY games halfway thru and really not know what kind of victory I would try to get. I'm new on Immortal, have won once and lost couple of games but Emperor is starting to feel too easy. I always start my games with large shuffle map. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome.