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Better integrated image hosting

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by vicawoo, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. vicawoo

    vicawoo Chieftain

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    One of the biggest barriers for people contributing/asking for help is how cumbersome it is to host images. Can't tell you how many "help me with my game" threads there is without screenshots, which is inevitably followed by asking for screenshots, which is inevitably followed by asking how, and so on.

    Of course, it's easy enough on the game side: you hit print screen, it goes to the screenshots folder (at least for civ 4).

    Spoiler The Current Solution and why it's too difficult :
    But the natural forum solution, you have to upload it into attachments. I don't think it's as difficult as people make it out to be, other than having to select each file individually.
    However, these images are shown at the bottom of the post and cannot be integrated into the post itself.

    And ironically, there's an img bbcode option which does allow us to show images from urls ... but it has no relation to the upload feature.

    So what people normally do is upload all their files to a 3rd party file hosting service, then one by one copy and paste the urls back into the post. It's the most effective way, but it's very cumbersome to navigate back and forth between two pages to post images.


    I used to use imageshack toolbar, which allowed drop and drag functionality into text areas. I drag images from my files, it uploads it automatically, and automatically pastes bbcode urls. Unfortunately, that's gone obsolete with the older gecko Firefox draganddrop API, so I'm now back to square one like everyone else.

    So I'm asking for better functionality, and suggesting something that looks like a good solution, or something akin to it:
    http://imageshack.us/content.php?page=syndicate

     
  2. Synsensa

    Synsensa Deity Retired Moderator

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    Imageshack Syndicate is an incredibly buggy and hardly useful tool, and often doesn't even work. I don't see how uploading to a place like imgur or photobucket is cumbersome unless you are uploading literally dozens of pictures every single day, which is incredibly unlikely.
     
  3. vicawoo

    vicawoo Chieftain

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    I'm not familiar with the service itself, but with the old service, it took me less than a second to upload arbitrarily many pictures (not including the upload time). I really don't care what service it is, just so long as it's supremely easy and fast and user friendly, think apple level overly user friendly.

    I can add up the actions:
    open your favorite image hosting service (say you use autocomplete, so .25 to 1 second)

    Move your mouse to the appropriate upload field

    Change folder to your image folder

    Scroll to first target image, for saves I have to reorder by last modified.

    If you're lucky, you can select multiple images. If not, well, for a normal save, I'll do 3 to 4 screenshots of my land, 1 for tech, one for demographics, sometimes a diplomacy relations screenshot. For a turn by turn, important events tend to get their own screenshot.

    So otherwise, repeat the last 3 steps 5 to 10 times.

    Now for each image, navigate to the uploaded image page.

    Find the url.

    Copy the url

    Tab back into your civilization post field.

    Click the image bbcode button

    Paste the url.

    Repeat for however many images. So for 6 images, that's about 8 x 6 = 48 actions. If you can accomplish that in less than a second, kudos to you. If you're like a normal person, then I'd be unhappy if my upload system takes 3 minutes to click through for a series of images, and that's if I'm efficient.
     
  4. Camikaze

    Camikaze Administrator Administrator

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    If you were happy with what imageshack used to be, you should try imgur now. It essentially offers the same thing. Click 'computer', choose the file (though I guess that'd still involve the issues with choosing a file that you list), click 'upload', grab the direct link URL (you don't have to go searching for it), done.
     
  5. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

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    I second imgur, it is more or less exactly how an image hosting service should be. Imageshack went downhill years ago and has too many pop-ups and advertisements (yes there is ad-block, but the people who don't know how to upload an image probably don't know how to use adblock either, if they are even using Firefox).

    Also to select multiple images you just highlight or hold ctrl + click and select them all to upload (to imgur, I haven't used imageshack in years).

    Plus, knowing how to upload an image to a decent hosting site is a necessary and somewhat required skill on the internet anyway.
     
  6. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    My problem with the attachments on CFC is more that they automatically recompress most image files (making them somewhere between ugly and useless) and have a ridiculously low data threshold.
     
  7. Abaddon

    Abaddon Deity

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    We used to have a lot better system.

    That system lead to someone being able to hack CFC and delete tons and ton of stuff

    Since then, we do not have any moderation or improvement by non standard things.


    Sadly the current Attachments system is not going to change.. it would help if their was a more obvious link.. and as Dachs said, higher thresholds.
     
  8. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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    Upload it as an attachment, then get the urlk to the attachment, and enclose that in
     
  9. Abaddon

    Abaddon Deity

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    I do do that, but its a bit cumbersome. An why does the gallery take weeks to get approval?
     
  10. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Not more cumbersome than using an external service ^^.
    It's just 2 clicks!

    Does not anymore. Has been speed up.
     
  11. Abaddon

    Abaddon Deity

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    2 Clicks..


    1. Go advanced..
    2. Manage Attachments
    3. Browse
    4. Unknown clicks finding file..
    5. Upload
    6. Click on link to upload
    7. Click on title bar to highlight the address
    8. Copy it here
    9. click the img tags
    10. click post :p
     

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  12. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

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    That looks like the vending machine at my old workplace... except we didn't have Fanta :(
     
  13. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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    Incremental over what you've got to do to upload it anyway. :
     

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