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[RD] Biden v. Biden

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by BvBPL, Apr 2, 2021.

  1. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    Aww, that's cute.

    There was also the Supergun affair and Gerald Bull.
     
  2. caketastydelish

    caketastydelish Deity

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    Has ISIS as a political entity ever rose again ever since being swiftly defeated?
     
  3. Bugfatty300

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    Swiftly defeated! Man that's hilarious. Have you tried this routine as a stand-up?
     
  4. caketastydelish

    caketastydelish Deity

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    The last ISIS holdout was Baghouz, which fell on March 23, 2019, and that was captured without US troops in the region to assist.
     
  5. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Well at least Trump got some oil for America
    Sure he armed "terrorists" in Libya and nearly kicked off a war with Iran. But Iam moving the goal post again because it looks bad for Trump and Iam desperate to defend him for some reason.

    Here we are, "Libertarian" supporting the annexation of territory and seizure of oil.

     
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  6. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust New Englander

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    Not just a lot of bombs. 4 times more drone strikes than Obama. A record number on Afghanistan.
    No, the same amount, with a record amount of bombs. And yes, he left Biden with a way bigger mess.

    You called it: the road to peace remember? Wait, I'll quote you.
    See? You did. The road to peace is paved with 4 times as many drone strikes than Obama and a record amount on Afghanistan.
    The 2016 executive order was brought in by then-President Barack Obama, who was under pressure to be more transparent.

    Reporting civilian casualties is a stink Zerkie? Ok. You think reporting civilian casualties is a stink. Who cares about reporting on civilian casualties eh? At least, when your lord and saviour Trump is responsible for them.

    And no, it is not ok for Obama to wait 8 years for that. It was good it was implemented, but Trump thinks reporting civilian casualties is a distraction.

    Not unlike covid deaths when he is trying to scam a second term.
     
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  7. caketastydelish

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    I don't mind killing legitimate enemy combats with drone strikes, but it is inexcusable to do that to civilians.
     
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  8. Denkt

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    GDP per capita (constant 2010 US$) - Iraq, China, Vietnam | Data (worldbank.org)

    GDP per capita, PPP (constant 2017 international $) - Iraq, China, Vietnam | Data (worldbank.org)

    Roughly before Gulf War Iraq was far ahead of China and Vietnam, both Gulf War and invasion of Iraq saw large drop in the economy, today Iraq is hardly above its 1999 level, far behind in terms of growth compared to China and Vietnam and in total terms now behind China and being soon surpassed by Vietnam if the trend continues.

    Saddam did not see good growth number either, so the economic issues is probably quite deep.
     
  9. Modder_Mode

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    This is just a small sampling of some of Joe Bidens comments:

    Joe Biden: “You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy"

    Joe Biden: “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids”

    That is true, Trump was a Democrat most of his life and donated to the Democrat party regularly, although he never considered himself to be liberal. What Trump brought to the Republican party was something different and I think that was the point Patine (I think it was Patine?) was trying to make on several occasions that Donald Trump isn't your typical Republican.
     
  10. Denkt

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    What is even the typical democrat and republican, as far as I can tell these are big diverse groups with alot of varied views, which is perhaps one of the major issues with the two party system.
     
  11. Gorbles

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    The notion that Trump can't be conservative because he was (apparently) a Democrat is, uh, laughable on a number of levels.
     
  12. Modder_Mode

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    Both political parties (and all political parties for that matter) consist of far, center and moderate, so yes it is hard to define a typical group that "belong" to a said party.

    I don't know if you'd call him a Democrat, maybe in the past, he probably aligned himself to that party for concessions and shady business deals as has always been the case in politics, he was good friends with the Clintons at one stage. You wouldn't class him as a clean cut conservative though...
     
  13. Gorbles

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    The Democrats have plenty of conservatives, is my point. His allegiance (however it worked) to a party is independent of that. Honestly, the same goes for most people. "conservative", "liberal", "leftist", "far-righter" . . . these all exist independently of political party affiliation (especially in a two-party state).
     
  14. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    So someone who has often been inarticulate and insensitive is obviously worse in your mind that someone who actively sought the support of and encouraged fascist racists and terrorists.

    Don't you think that's pretty messed up?


    What brought Trump to the Republican party was that he was too racist to tollerate a Black president.
     
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  15. El_Machinae

    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    I'm not going to tit-for-tat, here. Trump was unacceptable as President, and if someone cannot see that, and that all other alternatives (even if bad) were not worse than him, I don't think there's anything that can convince them. Word mumbles don't compare to tweeting racist crime statistics. Word mumbles don't compare with decades of 'remembering' that New Jersey brown people were on the streets celebrating 9/11. Chances are that you and I are both white, so us arguing about his racism is a bit pointless. And, because of partisan differences, discussing the voting statistics won't help much. You'll notice an uptick in non-white voting for Trump, I'll point out that sheer numbers are what won Biden both the primary and final election. Despite you thinking that Biden is 'racist', his voting base certainly didn't.

    Finally, I don't think you actually care if Biden is racist, more that if you can 'prove online' that he is. Because if you cared about racism, you'd have been noticing Trump's in 2011-2020, because it was at an unacceptable level already and will have crossed any concerned person's 'threshold'.
     
  16. FriendlyFire

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    Classical conservative is dead
    Obama was a good christian, attended church, faithful to hes marriage, humble and tried to be honest. Conservatives hated Obama so they elected someone that is the opposite of everything Obama is
    Trump is an Athiest, avoids attending church, unfaithful cheater, bragget, narcissist, lier

    That is the Republican conservative party now.
     
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  17. Modder_Mode

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    "You know he's just a tad insensitive, he's not really that racist, he doesn't mean what he says" how far back does this cognitive dissonance of his go? Five, ten, fifteen, twenty, thirty+ years ago? It only goes to show what he really thinks about black people, if he lacks the cognitive ability to filter what he is saying.

    When did Donald Trump say this?

    That is the point though....

    Crime bill acts that target minorities, segregation and praise for an ex KKK member....yes....word mumbles...

    So remember people, Democrats are all about diversity & morals, we want a diverse president, someone that represents us all, someone who is the exact opposite of Donald Trump, because after-all we are the party of moral superiority......
    .....so lets elect Joe Biden, an old rich white male, a racist, who touches women inappropriately, sexually assaults them, makes sexist comments about women, touches children in the most inappropriately creepy way, a corrupt career politician who's been in the system for decades, who dodges payroll tax while lecturing others on the same issue, he is just the person we have been looking for!
     
  18. r16

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    uhm , yes , once again the betrayed Kurds . Yesterday , New Turkey froze the assets of 6 or 7 lSlL members . No doubt Syrians made citizens of New Turkey during the early period ofthe Syrian troubles who then went through the rampage as required and they are punished today only as a cover of things to come . lSlL exists as an organization , might immediately get into high gear if properly funded . Their primary duty was to create the basis for the ethnic cleansing of the corridor to the Mediterranean required for the Kurdish pipeline and you people would really grumble if the Kurds had killed all those Yezidi people by themselves . As such , lSlL is currently fighting only the Syrians and lranians , somewhere in the Syrian deserts close to the lraqi border , ı think . And am pretty sure it doesn't make the grade in the West , but Voice of Russia reports Americans stole 14 truckloads of wheat from a storage site in Syria and moved it to lraq and it happens regularly as well .
     
  19. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Or, alternately, what you are reading into it is what you want to read into it, and actual African Americans think you are wrong. Who's better to judge?



    Continually while Obama was president. He was one of the most outspoken Birthers.



    The point is that the American political right has no credibility when making these claims. Put up or shut up. You're supporting a political narrative which has done nothing but tell lies for decades now. It's not just the Bithers and Q-Anon, 100% of who are lying, it's Benghazi, Hunter Biden's laptop, Ukraine, China, Hillary's emails. There's only so many lies the right can tell before we just assume that any attack from the right is a lie.

    And what you are doing is no different. If you have no evidence, then I have to assume that you believe that you are lying. Otherwise, why would you say it? And if you do have evidence, where was it during the election? Anyone can make baseless allegation.

    But you have no credibility at all.
     
  20. mitsho

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    Why are we having that discussion now? Isn't the purpose of your eternal american election season to debate all those things ad nauseam?
     
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