I need to disagree on that! Haiti was the most influential country of Americas. First because it was the first country of Americas to abolish the slavery (and lead the global slavery emancipation) and second because it was the first black republic of the world.
Well, to be fair, a low-grade, turmoil-riven despotism for the vast majority of its history. I mean, with an official national foundation year of 1791, their first elected President in a contested and even remotely close to free-and-fair election was 1951 - 161 years later. Most Haitian leaders came to power by coup d'tat, winning civil wars, or being hand-picked by their tyrannical predecessors, or, in a few cases, just being in the right place - and the right position in the (usually military) hierarchy - at the right time. The term, "republic," outside a nation whose leader is not monarchial or theocratic (and even then, they've had three who've taken monarchial pretenses, and the Duvaliers actually had a family succession with a fair degree of pomp) is dubious.
As I said in the other thread, Haiti wasn't the reason slavery was abolished in the rest of the Western Hemisphere.
Don't need to be democratic to be a Republic. And what's metter if Haiti had a lot of coup d'Etat? that don't change it was the first black republic of the world.
Of course Haiti was the main reason for the end of slavery world wide. It is so inpactifull as the French revolution.
No, it wasn't. Haiti wasn't the reason that slavery ended in the Western Hemisphere (it is still practiced in Africa, despite the best efforts of colonial governments to stop it). In fact, the example of Haiti (where the white population was brutally murdered by the former slaves) made Southern US slaveowners even more afraid of abolition than they already were, since they were worried they would be murdered by their former slaves.
Jan Smuts, Boer general, was the only man to sign both the Treaty of Versailles and the UN Charter. Which Haitian statesman had a comparable impact on the global stage?
I suppose, at best, the Boer Republics under Pretorious or Kruger could give Shaka a nemesis if the national nemesis sub-system toyed with and mentioned here and there were inserted as a mechanic. Though, as has been pointed out by the few people who had brought it up, it's an inherently contentious mechanic idea in and of itself.
A General fighting under British Imperial military command and a PM of a British Dominion.
I just wish that Boers would finally get a representation as a full-fledged civ, instead of just reusing Washington's leaderhead in a scenario. I mean, if the Republic of Venice (cool civ, cool leaderhead, I'm glad it was in Civ V) is important enough, than so are the Boer Republics.
Still, an influential figure. Probably the most influential South African ever, or the second most influential, second only to Mandela.
Haiti has not, I think you just don't care for the Boer Republics for whatever reason.
The Venetian Republic was the longest-extant, even to date, republic in world history - 1100-1200 years in existence as such. It's mercantile power dominated the Mediterranean trade routes for centuries, it had colonies all the way down the Adriatic into the Aegean, your vaunted Crusaders often got deeply into debt with them (and debts to Venice, even by great European powers, were NOT ignored) to arrange transport to the Near and Middle East, Venice was a major player in the wars against the Ottomans, the only Mediterranean Catholic nation to defy Vatican edicts and get away with it, multiple times, and even got the privilege of their Archbishop being one of only five recognized with the title of Patriarch in the Catholic Church, they produced MANY navigators of the Age of Exploration, and were filthy rich. How do the Boer Republics inherently compare there?
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Still, it pales, historiographically, compared to the Venetian Republic, whom you, of your own complete and independent volition, levied the comparison to after spending the last while comparing to Haiti.
The Boers and Venice are of equal historiographic importance. Haiti is somewhere between San Marino and those two.
No, not by anyone outside your local circle, I can assure you.
Venice as a city, as a tourist destination is more relevant than the Boer Republics, but Dandolo's Venetian Republic is no more relevant than Kruger's South African Republic.
You apparently didn't read my post above describing the Venetian Republic's historic pedigree if you can only think of, "tourist destination," or if you REALLY believe the vast majority of the world views Paul Kruger as having a historical prominence even remotely nearing the same neighbourhood. Your sense of proportion is nowhere on par with the great majority of the world - and the great majority of Civ players.
Haiti also fight and defeated the British. During the Haitian revolution the Haiti need to fight against the French, the Spanish and the British and won everyone to achieve the independence.
