Black Lives Don't Matter

[classical_hero]

One of the great ironies of the Black Lives Matter group is the fact that their cause actually causes more black deaths than it does to stop them. The facts are that since police dare not to be proactive in stopping crime since you are more likely to be accused of being a racist if you happen to come into a situation where you face someone of a different skin colour.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2757809

Abstract:
Critics have long claimed that when the law regulates police behavior it inadvertently reduces officer aggressiveness, thereby increasing crime. This hypothesis has taken on new significance in recent years as prominent politicians and law enforcement leaders have argued that increased oversight of police officers in the wake of the events in Ferguson, Missouri has led to an increase in national crime rates. Using a panel of American law enforcement agencies and difference-in-difference regression analyses, this Article tests whether the introduction of public scrutiny or external regulation is associated with changes in crime rates. To do this, this Article relies on an original dataset of all police departments that have been subject to federally mandated reform under 42 U.S.C. § 14141 — the most invasive form of modern American police regulation. This Article finds that the introduction of § 14141 regulation was associated with a statistically significant uptick in crime rates in affected jurisdictions. This uptick in crime was concentrated in the years immediately after federal intervention and diminished over time. This finding suggests that police departments may experience growing pains when faced with external regulation.

I just love the work of the activist Shaun King. First he complains that the police are unfairly treating minorities so as a result the police back off and as a result of that crime increase so he complains that the police aren't doing their job. What exactly will satisfy such people?
http://city-journal.org/html/back-bedlam-14403.html

Equally vilified was Broken Windows policing, which responds to low-level offenses such as graffiti, disorderly conduct, and turnstile jumping. Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King launched a petition after the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, demanding that Attorney General Eric Holder “meet with local black and brown youth across the country who are dealing with ‘Zero Tolerance’ and ‘Broken Windows’ policing.”

Well, the police got the message. In response to the incessant accusations of racism and the heightened hostility in the streets that has followed the Michael Brown shooting, officers have pulled back from making investigatory stops and enforcing low-level offenses in many urban areas. As a result, violent crime in cities with large black populations has shot up—homicides in the largest 50 cities rose nearly 17 percent in 2015. And the Left is once again denouncing the police—this time for not doing enough policing. King now accuses police in Chicago of not “doing their job,” as a result of which “people are dying.” Stops in Chicago are down nearly 90 percent this year through the end of March, compared with the same period in 2015; shootings were up 78 percent and homicides up 62 percent through April 10. Over 100 people were shot in the first ten days of 2016. King scoffs at the suggestion that a new 70-question street-stop form imposed on the CPD by the ACLU is partly responsible for the drop-off in engagement. If American police “refuse to do their jobs [i.e., make stops] when more paperwork is required,” he retorts, “it’s symptomatic of an entirely broken system in need of an overhaul.” This is the same King who as recently as October fumed that “nothing happening in this country appears to be slowing [the police] down.”

Let’s examine the dilemma imposed on cops by activists like King. On March 25, two groups of youths were fighting on a street corner on Chicago’s West Side. If Chicago officers had dispersed them and questioned anyone who seemed to be harboring a gun, a Black Lives Matter sympathizer would have seen only racial harassment. The ACLU would have logged any documented stops into its stop database in preparation for its next racial profiling lawsuit; the Justice Department, which is now investigating the Chicago Police Department for racism, would have also tallied the stops as evidence of bias. But the police did not move in on March 25, and one of the teens started shooting at his rivals. The gunslinger hit 13-year-old Zarriel Trotter, an innocent bystander; the bullet entered Trotter’s back near his spine and punctured his intestines. As of early April, the police were still searching for the shooter. “It gets scarier out here every day,” a classmate of Zarriel’s told the Chicago Tribune. “Young people in Chicago can’t go outside without knowing whether they will be the next person fired at.”

Yes the thread title is provocative, but it is a direct result of what Black Lives Matter does. Instead of being for the reduction of deaths of blacks, they actually increase it since they don't really care. But that is would be the stand for most such activists, they make a lot of noise but they don't actually do what they say they are about.

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[Lexicus]

The Ferguson effect has already been debunked. Though, I hope people will take note of how similar the OP's point is to Bill Clinton's rant about Black Lives Matter.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Nice title.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

It's way, way too soon to use the data point of the slight uptick of crime in 2015 to make any snap judgments about policing or oversight. We still don't even have a working theory for why crime dropped as much as it has over the past 30 years, much less what happened to cause 2015's change.

 

[emzie]

Thank you, white person from Australia, for sharing your perspective of what it means to be African American.

 

[useless]

Thank you, white person from Australia, for sharing your perspective of what it means to be African American.

ITT: White person from a different continent tells black people they don't really have it that bad.

A shame C_H won't apply his pro-life stance to this matter.. Black lives don't matter, indeed.

 

[Lexicus]

It's way, way too soon to use the data point of the slight uptick of crime in 2015 to make any snap judgments about policing or oversight. We still don't even have a working theory for why crime dropped as much as it has over the past 30 years, much less what happened to cause 2015's change.

We don't even know whether 2015's change is just statistical noise. It's laughable.

 

[bathsheba666]

Instead of being for the reduction of deaths of blacks, they actually increase it since they don't really care. But that is would be the stand for most such activists, they make a lot of noise but they don't actually do what they say they are about.

I would like to say your logic is both complex and compelling.

 

[_random_]

Edit: Not worth it.

 

[rah]

Currently in Chicago, the Police Force is under such scrutiny that many are claiming that the police are backing off a bit and this is causing an increase in violence. At the same time forgetting that this is the normal pattern as the weather gets warmer and more people are out and wandering about. Both are likely influencing it.

 

[Lexicus]

It's a lie. And if the police need to be racist fascists in order to do their jobs it's time for a revolution anyway.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/james-comeys-crime-creationism/412585/

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

It's a lie. And if the police need to be racist fascists in order to do their jobs it's time for a revolution anyway.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/james-comeys-crime-creationism/412585/

Bad article, the OP thinks creationist style is legit.

 

[Ryika]

I know, I know.

 

[W|M]

CH is a racist scumbag

Water is wet

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[Zelig]

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

CH is a racist scumbag

Water is wet

Yep. He tried to make a contrarian title but instead he just called it what he actually thinks about black people.

 

[Ryika]

(Meta: Using the word 'poster' clearly made no sense.)

 

[Ryika]

Spoiler :

Wow, why are you insulting my German heritage like that?

 

[emzie]

How are potatoes German?

 

[rah]

What's a lie? That Both are likely influencing it.

While there is no statistics to back it up, a little common sense is called for. As even stated in the link you posted, it postulated that there are probably many different causes. But I do believe that Cops being more worried about being accused of improper response can affect performance.