I wonder if this site will post the drop in Firaxis and Take 2 stock price tomorrow, when the plethora of consumers return the game and say goodbye to the series for good. Too bad they couldn't make a game that would run on a 10 month old laptop. Best of luck to Civ IV and not be able to reach your core market. I would put in a frowny face here, but there would be a full face and since I can't see one of those I won't give ya'll the extra pleasure.
"Black" Thursday
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Dantius III
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You, along with three or four other people who also do not know how to use a computer, will be the only ones returning it. It doesn't matter how old it is if you've got bad drivers or a crappy video card. I have a two year old computer and I can run the game.
I spend $1500 on something, people should tell me how to use it. When I spend $50 on a game they should answer the phone to tell me how it works, not put me on hold for 10 minutes and cut me off. Thanks for the smart ass comment though it is really helpful and I'm sorry I don't live in a hole and know everything about a foreign language of letters and numbers. I'll take my electonic typewriter/carddeck home now.
m15a
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huntunc said:
i know people who've bought hand bags costing hundreds of dollar to make them look more attractive. what's wrong with the computer and handbag industries? $$ = results!!! did you research the tech support on different computer companies before you bought your computer? there's a phrase for what i'm talking about "buyer beware".
and about civ tech support are you kidding? it's the day it came out, of course they're going to be busy. this fan site is even bogged down with its 1000 users on the board.
Comraddict
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WHY did you not care for what graphic card you are getting in laptop?
It is completely intel's fault to provide such low end graphic cards that do not yet support directx7.0 in hardware, which was released in 2000.
It is completely intel's fault to provide such low end graphic cards that do not yet support directx7.0 in hardware, which was released in 2000.
The important question is whether it is as buggy as non-lan multiplayer in the "Play the World".Heliotic said:
I'm beginning to think that these people make no effort to troubleshoot on multiple configurations. I personally switched to NVidia from ATI because I got tired of constantly having to reinstall drivers, but I will never forgive them for ripping me off with PTW. Never!
XF Clohvn
Chieftain
Heliotic said:
Although the ATI issue obviously exists, it's grossly overstated on these forums. I'm running perfectly with a 9800 pro, as are a few others I know. Don't forget, the majority of people with no tech issues are too busy playing to post
general_kill
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huntunc said:
Your own comment showed your flawed thinking. I did not know a single thing about computer specs before today. After 2 hours of reading and searching, I can actually know a lot about system preformance and upgrading my computer.
as for you, you'd rather pay $1500 for something you have NO FREGGIN IDEA about, wait ten minutes on the phone, spend time writing on this forum, and complain about other people, and yet, you still have not done your homework on what today's games require from a computer.
And about the "smart ass" comments not being helpful, you just said goodbye to civ 4 and the series, so how are we suppose to help you? by begging you to come back? Get real.
!!!!! i just wrote an essay on why to stop *****ing.... basicly ill sum it up
DONT blame intel... many laptop users will never touch a 3d game.... therefore there intel graphics card will run everything they need fine.... dvds and powerpoint dont view diffrent on diff cards. its 3d games that need better cards.
the person to blame for your laptop issues is YOU the consumer. when making a $1500 investment for a computer its your responsibilty to know what you getting not anyone elses. if u know you play games .than u should have opted for a laptop with a 3d card..... not the cheapest one you could get because laptops arnt made for games... you need something a little above and beyond for that.
as for ati... this stuff happens all the time.. and it WILL be fixed. nobody wasted $50 and this game is amazing so just hold out untill a patch is released. aoe 3 came out last week and already has 1 patch... guess what ALL comp games go through this. life will go on i promiss your be civing soon enough,
all in all dont blame firaxis, intel, or anyone else for the game problems
its either YOUR fault as a consumer. or your impatent for a patch... (which i understand) but a phone convo wont always fix it.... the develupers know the error im sure and will have a fix
DONT blame intel... many laptop users will never touch a 3d game.... therefore there intel graphics card will run everything they need fine.... dvds and powerpoint dont view diffrent on diff cards. its 3d games that need better cards.
the person to blame for your laptop issues is YOU the consumer. when making a $1500 investment for a computer its your responsibilty to know what you getting not anyone elses. if u know you play games .than u should have opted for a laptop with a 3d card..... not the cheapest one you could get because laptops arnt made for games... you need something a little above and beyond for that.
as for ati... this stuff happens all the time.. and it WILL be fixed. nobody wasted $50 and this game is amazing so just hold out untill a patch is released. aoe 3 came out last week and already has 1 patch... guess what ALL comp games go through this. life will go on i promiss your be civing soon enough,
all in all dont blame firaxis, intel, or anyone else for the game problems
its either YOUR fault as a consumer. or your impatent for a patch... (which i understand) but a phone convo wont always fix it.... the develupers know the error im sure and will have a fix
"DONT blame intel... many laptop users will never touch a 3d game.... therefore there intel graphics card will run everything they need fine.... dvds and powerpoint dont view diffrent on diff cards. its 3d games that need better cards."
To play the devil's advocate - Intel wants to weaken the graphic card industry to bring the need for MIPS back to the processor. Intel certainly had a strategic goal to make their graphics cards dependant on the processors that they sell. The design for the current graphics solution was motivated by something other than just giving the consumer what he wants (selling more processors)....
To play the devil's advocate - Intel wants to weaken the graphic card industry to bring the need for MIPS back to the processor. Intel certainly had a strategic goal to make their graphics cards dependant on the processors that they sell. The design for the current graphics solution was motivated by something other than just giving the consumer what he wants (selling more processors)....
Everything you ever needed to know about PC's:
1: Don't buy them pre-made from large computer retailers because they'll offer you a cheap PC with a single up to date component, tell you it's up to date whilst stinging back on everything else making the entire PC useless.
That's it.
Just buy the individual components yourself. GPU (Nvidia, ATI), CPU (pentium, AMD), RAM (if you go budget & get 512mb, get a single 512mb chip and not 2x 256mb chips so you can easily upgrade to 1GB later on). Suitable case & fan (depending on CPU choice), and a decent compatible motherboard. Salavage old parts such as DVD-ROM, Disk Drive, Moniter, Keyboard, Mouse, Games, Opperating System, Hard Disk, Pink Fluffy Dice + whatever from your old machine. Then either build it yourself or take it into a shop and pay them to build it for you.
By the way, building a PC is like Lego. The only exception being pissing around with your motherboard which is a proper pain in the ass depending on which motherboard you buy. If you intend on building it yourself then make damn sure that the BIOS on your motherboard is user friendly. Preferably with a component search feature.
Don't know what components to buy? If you are reading this message then you have access to the Internet. Not just an infinite supply of porn, but also full of advice and reviews on an infinite array of subjects from cooking to PC hardware too! Go nuts.
1: Don't buy them pre-made from large computer retailers because they'll offer you a cheap PC with a single up to date component, tell you it's up to date whilst stinging back on everything else making the entire PC useless.
That's it.
Just buy the individual components yourself. GPU (Nvidia, ATI), CPU (pentium, AMD), RAM (if you go budget & get 512mb, get a single 512mb chip and not 2x 256mb chips so you can easily upgrade to 1GB later on). Suitable case & fan (depending on CPU choice), and a decent compatible motherboard. Salavage old parts such as DVD-ROM, Disk Drive, Moniter, Keyboard, Mouse, Games, Opperating System, Hard Disk, Pink Fluffy Dice + whatever from your old machine. Then either build it yourself or take it into a shop and pay them to build it for you.
By the way, building a PC is like Lego. The only exception being pissing around with your motherboard which is a proper pain in the ass depending on which motherboard you buy. If you intend on building it yourself then make damn sure that the BIOS on your motherboard is user friendly. Preferably with a component search feature.
Don't know what components to buy? If you are reading this message then you have access to the Internet. Not just an infinite supply of porn, but also full of advice and reviews on an infinite array of subjects from cooking to PC hardware too! Go nuts.
like benji said... NEVER BUY PREMADE PCS... unless its a laptop which you have to but even than reaseach every component in the laptop... as far as desktops you will be better of and spend less money doing it yourself..... the process is fool proff every park can only fit in certain spots. the hardest part is making sure your mobo is compatible with your options.. if someone is having an issue with that just pm me or someone willing to help i could give u a step by step shopping guide.
TastySheriff
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BLAME HITLER! It will do you just as much good as blaming anyone else and people will think youre bieng funny rather than bieng a jerk. Seriously...
Seriously, though. You guys are right. If you want your game to work you WILL get it to work. This is nothing compared to the old DOS days. Constantly messing with autoexec.bat and config.sys files. Trial and error by loading different things at different times to best take advantage of 640K ram just to see some pixilated pixie in 16 colors casting a spell at your paladin-looking avatar which really just looked like a grey blob holding a stick. Back in the day we didn't have tech support that would help us with this stuff. We worked our way through it, and WITHOUT the benefit of the internet to download drivers.
If your game doesn't work then you're not trying hard enough.
If your game doesn't work then you're not trying hard enough.
Tarascan_King
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zeeter said:
EXACTLY!! I remember those days, just you and the computer, no forums, no hotlines, no nothing, if you really wanted to play a game you would make it happen!!!
Frollo
Prince
Hear hear!zeeter said:
I fondly remember those days when you had to know the difference between expanded and extended memory
Heh...remember boot disks? I literally had four of them. One for Darklands. One for Front Page Sports: Football, one for Windows, and one for Silent Service 2. Darklands would never run right for me. I played with that for months. Just when I'd get it right something else would happen. I really miss that game. One of the most thought out games in history.
