Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Estebonrober, Jul 25, 2020.
Giannis and S. Curry play it, afaik ^_^
Richard Clarke agrees.
The Washington Post, 30 July 2020 - "Opinion: Dismantle the Department of Homeland Security", by Richard A. Clarke
tl;dr the DHS once again saw the old adage that politicians' answer to a problem is to create an agency with the name of the problem come true.
Holy **** a libertarian with principles and it's occupy federal land guy!
A group of Black Lives Matter demonstrators were beaten up during a pro-police Back the Blue rally in Colorado on Saturday.
The rally was held in front of the Fort Collins Police Services building where people waved “thin blue line” flags and carried signs with slogans like “defend the police.” At one point, at least two counter-protester groups, including a Black Lives Matter group that had held its own rally earlier in the day, arrived across the street from the pro-police group.
A Fort Collins detective told the Denver Post that those arrested and cited were among both the pro-police and Black Lives Matter groups.
What are the People going to do about the American Brownshirts? And how are the cops going to arrest people for being beaten up? Seems like the cops and the fascist militias are allied.
Vote for them?
I should hope not.
Counter protests are pointless. Normies don't like pro-police demonstrations, either. If they turn violent, however, they will always side with the cops.
Arranging protests and counterprotests is also troll farm 101. There ARE groups just devoted to making things worse.
The fascists, yes.
Or anybody who views geopolitics in zero-sum terms. Anybody who wants a weaker geopolitical opponent will consider fomenting damage. All the trollfarms need are True Believers willing to be lead about by the nose. Sprinkle in memes that mischaracterize the opponent, encourage a lack of empathy, and bam(!) you get some delicious damage.
I guess we could talk about abstract hypotheticals or we could talk about the actual groups of brownshirts roaming the streets, attacking groups of people, and lynching folks.
I get what you’re saying. It’s a general issue. It is also a specific issue. We have a right-wing terrorism problem.
That's why I said ‘vote for them’ which is a matter of probability, not possibility.
Well I've always said the 2nd Amendment guarantees two rights: the right to own weapons and the right to form militias. If the government isn't providing necessary security services, then the people must exercise the latter of those two rights.
Aren't the militias supposed to be formed against the (tyrannical) state?
Pro-police armed crowds seem to be in favor of the status quo, thus the state, and maybe shouldn't be covered by the 2nd amendment.
Not that they need to be covered by that, given in the US virtually any citizen can openly carry, by the looks of it.
No. At least, not legally speaking. Anti-government militias are illegal. However, militias formed to aid national or community defense are totally legal and is a right that I think is completely under utilized by the people.
What happened to the tree of liberty's need to be refreshed with the blood of tyrants?
Well that's why I said "legally speaking". Of course no government on this planet is ever going to make it legal to form an armed group for the purpose of overthrowing said government.
Morally though, the answer to the purpose of militias changes a bit.
Two reasons the Black Panthers gave for carrying guns was self defense and defense of the community against crime.
I'd like to invite you to study Latin American history.
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