BNH04- The Five Sultans Conquest Diety

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Preturn 1000BC:
Stop Istanbul from growing for an extra shield and gpt, temped to build a settler or a temple there but don't
Change Uskudar to a boat, contacts will be more important then the single horse they can build in 10

Turn 2 950BC:

IBT:
Germany founds Brandenburg in our north

Turn 10 750BC:
Iron is online, switch to some swords

Notes:
We should consider defensive military as well before going to war
We should also consider an alliance with Spain
Time a settler build in Berlin with their growth so lux don't have to hit 50
 
Good job, I agree with you on contacts. We only need one spearman per city (already done) on the front lines, and Diety just needs walls, and that's all the defense we need. We should be doing most of the attacking. Alliance with Spain, definately if we can afford it and the embassy.

No temples, flip risks are low, and isn't that big a loss.
 
Looks like I am up. I plan on playing this tonight.
 
Can we afford to buy spain into an alliance?
 
Thats a tough call. Id say that the warrior upgrades are worth more because spain could just stay at war for about 5 turns and get peace, AI does that all the time.
 
Own said:
should we put alliance as a higher priority over warrior upgrades?
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I don't think priority is the right word.
Use our money to upgrade the warriors and use the per turn gold to ally Spain.

BigNHuge said:
Id say that the warrior upgrades are worth more because spain could just stay at war for about 5 turns and get peace, AI does that all the time.
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Using per turn gold will mean that when they make peace the deal will end, and we can re-sign them again.
 
BNH04 750BC

Pre-turn:
- 204G, +2gpt, Writing in 7.
- We have 7 workers, 12 warriors, 2 spears, 14 horses, 1 curragh (rated weak vs. Germany).
- Konya (size 1) will complete its worker before it grows, change to a curragh.

<IBT: Istanbul sword => sword; Antalya worker => worker.>

T1 730:
- Sword heads for Diety.

<IBT: Aydin horse => horse; Konya curragh => rax; Germans start Hanging Gardens (Monarchy).>

T2 710:
- Our second curragh sets out to explore west.
- Hire a scientist in Uskadar to avert riots until an MP can get there.

<IBT: Istanbul sword => sword; Sinop worker => worker.>

T3 690: zzz

<IBT: Uskadar horse => horse; French complete Hanging Gardens.>

T4 670:
- MP arrives in Uskadar, fire the scientist.
- Germany is a Monarchy now.

T5-T6 650-630 : zzz

<IBT: Writing => Lit.; Istanbul sword => sword; Iznik sword => sword; Aydin horse => horse.>

T7 610:
- Send teams of workers to connect up Izmit and improve the lands there (GL city is working 3 unimproved BGs :confused: ).

<IBT: Diety sword => walls; Bursa sword => sword.>

T8 590:
- Lux. to 50% (happiness issues in Izmit and Uskadar).

<IBT: Istanbul sword => sword.>

T9 570:
- Move add’tl MP to Izmit (horse).
- Spain and Germany are both in the MA now.
- Lux. back to 40%.

<IBT: Uskadar horse => horse.>

T10 550:
- Scientist in Bursa (size 6 now & needs duct to grow any more).

Recap:
- 211G, 0gpt, Lit. in 23.
- 9 workers, 12 warriors, 2 spears, 10 swords, 18 horses, 2 curraghs. Rated average vs. Germany :D .
- The tech pace is quite fast in this game, even for Deity. Unfortunately Germany is already in the MA, which means they will be using pikes and MDIs pretty soon. All the more reason to get cats to support our sword SOD.
- I wanted to buy Maths but no deals were possible. Hopefully our curraghs will contact another civ. soon so we can get a deal.
- I think we are in trouble with the GL. Izmit has built only 113 of the 400 shields needed for the GL, and with the city at 50% corruption it is going to take a long time to get 400 shields. In hindsight we probably should have either gone with Diety, or put Uskadar on the river and started the prebuild there.
 
Big- Up
Own- On deck
dl123654- in das hole
bigfoot- in bigger hole

I think there's a chance we can snag the GL, but probably not. The AI I think actually builds it fastest on Deity, as on sid all the wonders are completed before they research lit, so no wonder cascades. If we don't get the GL, our only hope is to become a republic and self-research to catch up with help from the spoils of war from Germany and recently conquered territory.

Sorry about not working the BG's but it was against my conciense to waste so many worker turns moving the worker there. I think Izmit is too far from Istanbul, as it's being corrupted like crazy :( .

If Germany is in the MA, we should attack right now, cats can wait, and take Hamburg before they can get to Feud (hope it wasn't a free tech) and upgrade their spears. A sword still has a good chance against spear in a town. Or we could get Germany to loan us all their gold so they can't upgrade, but we would then have to wait another 20 turns to attack.

We should have planned a way to keep up in tech early on. I always do that now on Deity games, cause keeping up in the AA is not easy. I always decide, "GL or no GL" before playing a game. We suddenly decided, which we shouldn't have done. We could have done well without it, we just needed to contact Spain earlier and another civ with curraghs and research optimal techs trade wise.

OT- Big, have you ever won Deity? If not, and dl123654 hasn't either, and Bigfoot hasn't as well, this could be considered a Deity virgin game.
 
Own said:
OT- Big, have you ever won Deity? If not, and dl123654 hasn't either, and Bigfoot hasn't as well, this could be considered a Deity virgin game.
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I've won many deity games
 
I have won a few Deity games, and lost quite a few more. Maybe not a virgin, but I could certainly improve my game.
 
I personally, have never won a deity game.
 
Ill be out of town until friday. Going to a friends house and to a Detroit Tigers baseball game. Please skip me until then. Sorry for the trouble.

Edit- Post #700 :goodjob: :lol: :) :D :cool: [party] [pimp] :beer: :band: :banana:
 
Pre-turn- Upgrade 3 warriors to swords. Change Diety from sword to walls. 8 horses move by Munich and the rest by Salzburg. Change Diety back from walls to sword. The big question, to attack now, or later. Their iron needs to be taken out ASAP, and how many swords is it necessary to take out Hamburg without cats?

I have to go, so everyone tell me your two cents on this pre-turn.

Edit: Discovered two more sources of German iron, one by a city we can take on turn two of the war, and one by a crappy city our exploring warrior can pillage (hopefully).
 
Im back from out of town and we'll just call this a switch with own and I. My .02 cents are that we need to go ahead and try and take about 3-4 german cities, and sue for peace. Get a few techs. Maybe we can break their backs, but its doubtful. Is their still a small chance we can get the GL?
 
Pre-turn- Upgrade 3 warriors to swords. Change Diety from sword to walls. 8 horses move by Munich and the rest by Salzburg. Change Diety back from walls to sword. The big question, to attack now, or later. Their iron needs to be taken out ASAP, and how many swords is it necessary to take out Hamburg without cats?

Continued, and Germany is NOT in the middle ages.

1. Istanbul sword to sword. Antayla builds worker, and has nothing more useful to build, so it builds a temple (prebuild for a catapult I guess).

2. Aydin horse to horse. Konya worker to curragh. If everything goes right, Hamburg should be Ottoman on turn seven.

3. Istanbul sword to sword. Diety sword to sword. Bursa sword to sword. Sinop worker to curragh.

4. Change Diety to spear. Uskadar horse to horse. We're average in military to Germany :bounce: :banana:

5. Istanbul sword to sword. Here's a big turn. My stomach is nervous. I declare war. I have a feeling I'm gonna regret that, though I know it's the right decision. Move swords from Diety into Hamburg territory. Capture Munich without losing a horse. Lots of resistors, though, so move all horses in. Start on a settler to abandon and replace. Ooh! The map looks oranger! Such a pretty sight than compared to when that city was blue. Move warrior in hopeless pillaging mission to get the iron. Also move horses by Salzburg, but can't attack.

6. Capture Hamburg! Capture Salzburg! Lots of German swords are approaching, this is the time I wish I had cats. Move the pillaging warrior on the iron. I think he won't be attacked! All our money with 0% science isn't enough to buy in Izzy. Maybe when we've made more progress and weakened them they'll agree. I'm exited! I'm afraid of the counterattackers. I wish I had planned better, I don't know where to attack next nor how to handle the counterattackers.

7. Pillaging warrior survives, and attracts a lot of attention :band: ! Buy Spain for 29 gpt, and they go from annoyed to gracious! Istanbul sword to sword, Iznik sword to sword. Izmit (aka GLTown) needs a specialist to continue happiness. I have already sent 4 workers to help Izmit out.

8. German sword dies trying to take Hamburg, and a German sword succeeds in killing a horse in Salzburg. Diety sword to sword. Bursa sword to sword. Sinop curragh to spear (incase Brandenburg attacks). Pillaging warrior the great dies, but his sacrifices will be remembered. :worship: Rest in Peace.
Pure AI Stupidity! The turn before moved two horses to Germanies last iron. There was an archer nearby. This IBT, a german sword from the fog attacks, and the horse retreats. Their archer can then take my horse off the iron, but chooses to kill off the retreated horse instead . Half the war is won.

Important Depressing Discovery: That wasn't Germanies last iron. They have one more residing under Nuremburg. Dang Germany has had a lot of iron. It's tough, the cities on a hill, and we have no cats. We don't know if it's connected or not, but each city has only had 2 defenders, so Nuremburg can be taken by 5 swords.



9. Same sword attacks Salzburg, is succesful, but takes 2 hp away from him. The reason I haven't attacked him is he's on a mountain. Hmm... Should I attack him with a sword? Sure. The sword dies, takes a hp away, but he's now promoted to elite :mad: . Attack again. Germany loses. Istanbul sword to sword. Aydin horse to horse. Attack a 2 hp sword on flatland with a horse. The horse dies :mad: and the sword is 1 hp. Another attacks and dies and the sword promotes. Nurememburg has reached 7 :mad: , so should be starved before attacking. Send 4 swords on the journey to Nuremburg, and up to 4 more can follow, and will be there by the time the city is starved. Back to weak again against Germanies military.

10. Konya curragh to curragh. Sinop riots :wallbash: . Salzburg isn't a target so I move some horses from there to Munich to assist in future seige of Cologne.

General Progress report:
:whipped:

Will have save and 2 screenies soon!
 
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